From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753738AbYIYEyt (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:54:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751568AbYIYEyl (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:54:41 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:45388 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751473AbYIYEyk (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:54:40 -0400 Message-ID: <48DB1984.8020704@zytor.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:54:28 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080723) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: akataria@vmware.com CC: Alok kataria , Ingo Molnar , Yan Li , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "joerg.roedel@amd.com" , "rjmaomao@gmail.com" , Yinghai Lu , Thomas Gleixner , Daniel Hecht , Zach Amsden Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] VMware detection support for x86 and x86-64 References: <20080221115452.GB13948@elte.hu> <20080907234510.GA24133@yantp.cn.ibm.com> <20080908140423.GG11993@elte.hu> <35f686220809241928k3669e30bi8a98b440443c4bff@mail.gmail.com> <48DB15DB.8040501@zytor.com> <1222317978.23524.117.camel@alok-dev1> In-Reply-To: <1222317978.23524.117.camel@alok-dev1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alok Kataria wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 21:38 -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: >> Alok kataria wrote: >>> Even if there is anything on that port on native hardware it would >>> work perfectly well and is _safe_. >>> First let me post the code to access this backdoor port (the way it >>> should really be done ) >>> >>> So whenever we query port 0x5658 , with the GETVERSION command (which >>> is the first thing we do with this port), we expect that eax != >>> 0xFFFFFFFF and ebx has a VMWARE specific MAGIC value. Please note >>> that ebx has been initialized to zero in the code above. >>> >> You have no idea what you just did to a real piece of hardware. > Why ? what do you mean ? > ebx is a local variable in the code above that i posted. > Only when on hypervisor will we write the magic value over there. > How can this affect native hardware, i fail to understand. > Please explain. > You accessed a bloody I/O port! If you think it's harmless because it was an IN, you're sorely mistaken. -hpa