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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Rafal <newsgroup@limcore.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel unable to adjust timeofday
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:49:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48DD3CAE.9050809@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47571.1222440706@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:29:53 +0200, Rafal said:
>> Hello, my system (64bit Ubuntu amd64 box) drifts about 10 seconds per hour
>> (i.e. time visible in the system).
> 
> First thing to do is figure out why your box has *such* a dreadfully poor
> clock. You're drifting at around 3,000 parts-per-million.  NTP is only able
> to deal with drifts up to 500 ppm, and most systems clocks are *much* more
> stable than that (for instance, my laptop is drifting at 2 ppm at the moment).
> The fact you're way outside the sane range leads to trouble...
> 

There are two possibilities:

Either, his system uses a ceramic oscillator instead of a crystal.  In 
that case, you're screwed.  Those can be ±10,000 ppm or more.  The other 
is that he is on a system which has a wrong frequency crystal installed 
for what the time base expects (usually 14.31818 MHz on PCs) -- say 15 
MHz.  In that case the clock is still stable, it's just *inaccurate*.

In the latter case, the adjtimex(8) command can be used to tell the 
kernel the approximate rate the clock is ticking, and then let NTP do 
the fine-tuning.

If you have manually determined that you are gaining 244 seconds in 24 
hours of free-running operation, you would use the following formula to 
calculate the tick interval:

            S
tick =  -------- * 10000
          G + S

... where S is the real sample interval (24 hours = 86400 seconds) and G 
is the amount of time gained in that time (244 seconds in this case); if 
you are *losing* time then G would be negative.

In this case:
            86400
tick = ------------- * 10000 = 9971.8 ~ 9972
         244 + 86400

So you would set:

adjtimex --tick 9972

... in your startup scripts, before ntpd is started.

If NTP still goes off the rails, then adjust the tick value in steps of 
about 5 until you can get it to converge.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-26 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-26 13:29 Kernel unable to adjust timeofday Rafal
2008-09-26 14:51 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-26 19:49   ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-10-05  1:46     ` Rafal

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