From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753808AbYI2Ufq (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:35:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752372AbYI2Ufi (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:35:38 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:59697 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752255AbYI2Ufi (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:35:38 -0400 Message-ID: <48E13B22.506@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:31:30 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: akataria@vmware.com CC: Gerd Hoffmann , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , LKML , the arch/x86 maintainers , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , "avi@redhat.com" , Rusty Russell , Zach Amsden , Daniel Hecht , "Jun.Nakajima@Intel.Com" Subject: Re: Use CPUID to communicate with the hypervisor. References: <1222472815.29886.43.camel@alok-dev1> <48E090B6.2080809@redhat.com> <1222710924.30247.21.camel@alok-dev1> <48E1227B.9040809@redhat.com> <1222717085.30247.44.camel@alok-dev1> In-Reply-To: <1222717085.30247.44.camel@alok-dev1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alok Kataria wrote: > > How does that matter, if we are able to standardize all this then, > hypervisors which want to run a Linux guest should effectively play by > the standards over here or else they would never work properly on Linux. > What we are trying to do here is try to standardize things for Linux so > that the Linux kernel implementation for Virtualization is that much > more easier. If this goes well other closed source hypervisors too can > effectively follow these standards. > If the other closed source hypervisors define their own cpuid leafs they > will still have to make Linux kernel side changes to make use of these > new leafs. Which allows them to add to these pool of cpuid interface's > too. > I don't think this is a realistic point of view, especically given who we're dealing with in the closed-source world. Without any kind of tagging of the information, it's realistically futile. Intel/AMD haven't helped any by reserving a space which is entirely too small. -hpa