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From: Kentaro Takeda <takedakn@nttdata.co.jp>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, haradats@nttdata.co.jp,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 1/6] LSM adapter functions.
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:23:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E33397.1030709@nttdata.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62704.1222837526@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:33:32 PDT, Casey Schaufler said:
>> I have always believed that MAC should come first, then DAC, because
>> MAC may care if you can see the mode bits. The current DAC before MAC
>> is an artifact of the desire for the LSM to behave cleanly as a
>> strictly additional mechanism. From an ideal security perspective
>> MAC should be first, but the pragmatic DAC first isn't going to cause
>> too much grief. If Tomoyo wants to do what I think is the right thing,
>> well, it's OK with me.
> I'm OK with the MAC going first as well
Current implementation is as follows.
- security_path_*: MAC before DAC
- security_inode_*: DAC before MAC
I can understand Casey and Valdis' MAC first approach from the ideal 
security perspective. However, from the pragmatic perspective, we 
prefer DAC before MAC approach as SELinux does. This approach doesn't 
change error code returned to callers if requested access is denied 
by DAC.

Regards,


  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-01  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-24  9:03 [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 0/6] TOMOYO Linux Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-24  9:03 ` [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 1/6] LSM adapter functions Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-25 16:59   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-26  5:38     ` Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-26 13:04       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-29  4:04         ` Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-30 15:45           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-09-30 16:14             ` Stephen Smalley
2008-09-30 16:23               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-01  8:19                 ` Kentaro Takeda
2008-10-01  2:33             ` Casey Schaufler
2008-10-01  5:05               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-01  8:23                 ` Kentaro Takeda [this message]
2008-10-01 21:15                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-02  5:04                     ` Kentaro Takeda
2008-10-02 13:39                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-03  6:37                         ` Kentaro Takeda
2008-10-03 13:09                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-06  2:19                             ` Kentaro Takeda
2008-10-06 16:54                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-10-07  6:28                                 ` Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-24  9:03 ` [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 2/6] Memory and pathname management functions Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-24  9:03 ` [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 3/6] Common functions for TOMOYO Linux Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-24  9:03 ` [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 4/6] Domain transition handler Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-24  9:03 ` [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 5/6] File operation restriction part Kentaro Takeda
2008-09-24  9:03 ` [TOMOYO #9 (2.6.27-rc7-mm1) 6/6] Kconfig and Makefile Kentaro Takeda

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