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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: "mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>, "hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"arjan@linux.intel.com" <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/7] x86, cpa: make the kernel physical mapping initialization a two pass sequence
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:28:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48EB8008.1020700@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081007015833.GO15609@linux-os.sc.intel.com>

Suresh Siddha wrote:
> Jeremy, hi. This dependency is not documented or explicitly called anywhere
> in the mm/init_64.c code. I would have expected to see a big comment near this
> kind of code :(
>   

Indeed yes.  I've explained it in various places, including commit 
comments, but there should be a comment right there in the code.

> It is not just the NX bit that we change. For DEBUG_PAGEALLOC, we want
> use 4k pages instead of large page mappings during the identity mapping
> (as this will clean some of the cpa pool code avoiding the cpa and hence
>  the page allocations for splitting the big pages from interrupt context's).
> In this case will will split the static large page mappings.
>   

Well, that's OK.  We just need to preserve the original page permissions 
when fragmenting the large mappings.  (This isn't a case that affects 
Xen, because it will already be 4k mappings.)

>>    3. The actual implementation is pretty ugly; adding a global variable
>>       and hopping about with goto does not improve this code.
>>     
>
> This is very early init code and I can't be fancy like calling cpa()
> which need mm to be up and running.

Well, is there any urgency to set NX that early?  It might catch some 
early bugs, but there's no urgent need.

>  And also, cpa's on individual chunks
> for entire identity mapping will make the boot slow.
>   

Really?  Why?  How slow?


>> it cause real failures?  Could we revert this patch and address the
>> problem some other way?  Which app note is this, BTW?  The one I have on
>> hand, "TLBs, Paging-Structure Caches, and Their Invalidation", Apr 2007,
>> does not seem to mention this restriction.
>>     
>
> http://developer.intel.com/design/processor/applnots/317080.pdf
> Section 6 page 26
>   

Ah, OK.  I have the first version of this document which does not 
mention this.  It would be good to explicitly cite this document by name 
in the comments.

>> Xen with this code in place (touching this code is always non-trivial).
>> I haven't looked into it in depth yet, but there's a few stand out "bad
>> for Xen" pieces of code here.  (And I haven't tested 32-bit yet.)
>>
>> Quick rules for keeping Xen happy here:
>>
>>    1. Xen provides its own initial pagetable; the head_64.S one is
>>       unused when booting under Xen.
>>    2. Xen requires that any pagetable page must always be mapped RO, so
>>       we're careful to not replace an existing mapping with a new one,
>>       in case the existing mapping is a pagetable one.
>>    3. Xen never uses large pages, and the hypervisor will fail any
>>       attempt to do so.
>>     
>
> Thanks for this info. Will get back to you tomorrow.
>   

Great.  Also, do you think you'll have a chance to look at unifying the 
32 and 64 bit code (where 32 uses the 64-bit version)?


Thanks,
    J

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-07 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-23 21:00 [patch 0/7] x86, cpa: cpa related changes to be inline with TLB Application note - v2 Suresh Siddha
2008-09-23 21:00 ` [patch 1/7] x86, cpa: rename PTE attribute macros for kernel direct mapping in early boot Suresh Siddha
2008-09-23 21:00 ` [patch 2/7] x86, cpa: remove USER permission from the very early identity mapping attribute Suresh Siddha
2008-09-23 21:00 ` [patch 3/7] x86, cpa: make the kernel physical mapping initialization a two pass sequence Suresh Siddha
2008-10-06 20:48   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-06 23:09     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-07  1:58     ` Suresh Siddha
2008-10-07 15:28       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2008-10-07 20:58         ` Suresh Siddha
2008-10-07 21:33           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-08 19:46           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-08 21:08             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-09-23 21:00 ` [patch 4/7] x86, cpa: dont use large pages for kernel identity mapping with DEBUG_PAGEALLOC Suresh Siddha
2008-09-23 21:00 ` [patch 5/7] x86, cpa: no need to check alias for __set_pages_p/__set_pages_np Suresh Siddha
2008-09-23 21:00 ` [patch 6/7] x86, cpa: remove cpa pool code Suresh Siddha
2008-09-23 21:00 ` [patch 7/7] x86, cpa: srlz cpa(), global flush tlb after splitting big page and before doing cpa Suresh Siddha
2008-09-24  8:15 ` [patch 0/7] x86, cpa: cpa related changes to be inline with TLB Application note - v2 Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-11 20:30 [patch 0/7] x86, cpa: cpa related changes to be inline with TLB Application note Suresh Siddha
2008-09-11 20:30 ` [patch 3/7] x86, cpa: make the kernel physical mapping initialization a two pass sequence Suresh Siddha

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