From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: akataria@vmware.com
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set.
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:47:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49010D1E.8070400@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224805162.21776.45.camel@alok-dev1>
Alok Kataria wrote:
>
> I am ok with the CONSTANT_TSC bit check, but if people think that its
> not important to skip this for native, i think adding a new flag to skip
> this should be safe enough.
>
> Ingo, HPA your views on this whole detection and skipping thing ?
>
Okay, first of all, I'm somewhat leery (to put it mildly) of trusting a
CPUID bit to tell me a *system* property, which is that all cores in the
system are synchronized. The CPU designer will know that all the cores
in the *package* are synchronized, but if that extends system-wide is a
property beyond the CPU. Now, if I'm not completely mistaken, in the
case of AMD this bit is actually set by the BIOS via a magic MSR, but
that doesn't mean it can't be wrong.
As far as skipping the check, it makes sense for me in the case of known
virtualization platforms; a CPU feature bit, real or synthetic, is a
very clean way to do that. In general we should centralize CPU
knowledge to arch/x86/kernel/cpu and have the code outside look for
specific feature flags, and that applies to virtualization platforms, too.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-23 23:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-21 1:35 [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 5:55 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-21 19:11 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:29 ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-21 9:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:41 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 17:40 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 18:04 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:15 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:10 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 19:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 19:47 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 21:41 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:23 ` [PATCH] Skip tsc synchronization checks if CONSTANT_TSC bit is set Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-22 19:30 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 20:17 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:04 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 19:58 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:00 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 22:13 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-22 22:11 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-22 22:54 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 2:21 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23 8:10 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23 23:39 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-23 23:47 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-10-24 0:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 7:23 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 15:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-24 19:34 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-24 19:50 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24 20:18 ` Dan Hecht
2008-10-24 1:12 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-24 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-22 22:15 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-22 22:17 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 9:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] Improve TSC as a clocksource under VMware Pavel Machek
2008-10-21 16:48 ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-21 18:36 ` Pavel Machek
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