From: "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, efault@gmx.de,
vatsa@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] sched: non-zero lag renice
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:13:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49023A82.8040708@nortel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1224880083.7753.6.camel@twins>
Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 11:47 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
>> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>
>> > Then renicing, esp when lowering nice value (getting heavier), its possible
>> > to get into a starvation scenario. If you got too much runtime as a very
>> > light task, you get shot way far too the right, which means you'll have to
>> > wait for a long time in order to run again.
>> >
>> > If during that wait you get reniced down, fairness would suggest you get run
>> > earlier, because you deserve more time.
>> >
>> > This can be solved by scaling the vruntime so that we keep the real-time
>> > lag invariant.
>>
>> If we've already been shot way out to the right, presumably that would give us
>> a large real-time lag. If we renice to a lower nice level, wouldn't we want
>> to reduce the real-time lag rather than make it constant?
Sorry, the patches arrived out of order and my comments were sent out before
reading your definition of "lag" as "the difference between the service time
received from the ideal model and the actual scheduler".
I was using a definition of lag as "amount of time before the process gets
scheduled again".
Given your definition, I think the patch makes sense.
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-24 21:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-24 9:06 [PATCH 0/8] scheduler patches Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 1/8] sched: fix a find_busiest_group buglet Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched: more accurate min_vruntime accounting Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 3/8] sched: weaken sync hint Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 4/8] sched: re-instate vruntime based wakeup preemption Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 5/8] sched: virtual time buddy preemption Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 6/8] sched: avg_vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-29 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-01 18:13 ` Fabio Checconi
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 7/8] sched: non-zero lag renice Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 17:47 ` Chris Friesen
2008-10-24 20:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 21:13 ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2008-10-24 9:06 ` [PATCH 8/8] use avg_vruntime for task placement Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-24 10:26 ` [PATCH 0/8] scheduler patches Ingo Molnar
2008-10-24 10:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
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