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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, greg@kroah.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:00:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <491C4F2C.6000709@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1L0eUz-0007D0-Tp@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu>

Hello,

Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> * Higher overhead when poll/select finishes.  Either all outstanding
>>   requests need to be cancelled using INTERRUPT whenever poll/select
>>   returns or kernel needs to keep persistent list of outstanding polls
>>   so that later poll/select can reuse them.  The problem here is that
>>   kernel doesn't know when or whether they'll be re-used.  We can put
>>   in LRU-based heuristics but it's getting too complex.
> 
> Why not just link the outstanding poll requests into a list anchored
> in 'fuse_file'?  Easy to reuse, don't care about cancellation.

Ah, that's the right place.

>> Overall, I think being lazy about cancellation and let userland notify
>> asynchronously would be better performance and simplicity wise.  What
>> do you think?
> 
> Lazy cancellation (no cancellation, esentially) sounds good.  But that
> works fine with the simplified protocol.
> 
> Think of it this way, this is what a poll event would look like with
> your scheme:
> 
> 1) -> POLL-notification
> 2) <- POLL-req
> 3) -> POLL-reply (revents)
> 
> Notice, how 1) and 2) don't carry _any_ information (the notification
> can be spurious, the events in the POLL request is just repeated from
> the original request).  All the info is in 3), so I really don't see
> any reason why the above would be better than just omitting the first
> two steps.

Alrighty then.  I'll convert it.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-13 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-28 17:40 [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 17:40 ` [PATCH 1/7] FUSE: add include protectors Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 17:40 ` [PATCH 2/7] FUSE: pass nonblock flag to client Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 17:40 ` [PATCH 3/7] FUSE: implement nonseekable open Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 17:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] FUSE: implement direct lseek support Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 17:41 ` [PATCH 5/7] FUSE: implement ioctl support Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 17:51   ` Greg KH
2008-08-28 17:59     ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:01       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:13         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-28 18:17           ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:23             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-28 18:34               ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 19:25                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-28 19:42                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 20:02                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-29  2:19                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29  7:59                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-29  8:12                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29  8:29                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-29  9:03                               ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29 19:17                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-08-29 19:47                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-30 11:40                                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-01 11:57                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-09-01 12:03                                     ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-03 14:32                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-09-03 14:40                                         ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-03 21:51                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-09-04  0:09                                             ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-29 11:31                         ` [fuse-devel] " Roger Willcocks
2008-08-29 11:54                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 20:48                 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-28 18:02       ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:14         ` Greg KH
2008-08-28 18:25           ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:20   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 18:28     ` Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 19:08       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 19:18         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-28 20:21           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-28 20:55             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-28 21:27               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-08-29  7:32                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-28 17:41 ` [PATCH 6/7] FUSE: implement unsolicited notification Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 17:41 ` [PATCH 7/7] FUSE: implement poll support Tejun Heo
2008-08-28 18:20 ` [PATCHSET] FUSE: extend FUSE to support more operations Miklos Szeredi
2008-08-28 18:23   ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14  8:21 ` Tejun Heo
2008-10-14  9:37   ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-14 12:16     ` [fuse-devel] " Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-10-14 12:43       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]     ` <2cff7cb50810141032m5793a405h7425dfa122fb67ba@mail.gmail.com>
2008-10-14 21:04       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-12  8:41     ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-12  9:14       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-12  9:30         ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-12  9:36           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-12  9:43             ` [fuse-devel] " Mike Hommey
2008-11-12 10:00       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13  5:54         ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13  6:06       ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13 11:19         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 11:29           ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13 11:57             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 12:14               ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13  6:26     ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13 11:47       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 11:54         ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13 11:58           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 12:34             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 13:23               ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13 13:42                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 14:29                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13 14:48                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 15:10                       ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-13 15:52                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-13 16:00                           ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2008-11-17  9:17                           ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-17 10:16                             ` [fuse-devel] " Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-18  3:32                               ` Tejun Heo
2008-11-18  9:33                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-11-18 10:30                                   ` Tejun Heo

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