From: "Vitaly V. Bursov" <vitalyb@telenet.dn.ua>
To: Wu Fengguang <wfg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Slow file transfer speeds with CFQ IO scheduler in some cases
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:46:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <491C75FC.1000409@telenet.dn.ua> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1226566313.199910.29888@de>
Wu Fengguang wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> //Sorry for being late.
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:02:28PM +0100, Jens Axboe wrote:
> [...]
>> I already talked about this with Jeff on irc, but I guess should post it
>> here as well.
>>
>> nfsd aside (which does seem to have some different behaviour skewing the
>> results), the original patch came about because dump(8) has a really
>> stupid design that offloads IO to a number of processes. This basically
>> makes fairly sequential IO more random with CFQ, since each process gets
>> its own io context. My feeling is that we should fix dump instead of
>> introducing a fair bit of complexity (and slowdown) in CFQ. I'm not
>> aware of any other good programs out there that would do something
>> similar, so I don't think there's a lot of merrit to spending cycles on
>> detecting cooperating processes.
>>
>> Jeff will take a look at fixing dump instead, and I may have promised
>> him that santa will bring him something nice this year if he does (since
>> I'm sure it'll be painful on the eyes).
>
> This could also be fixed at the VFS readahead level.
>
> In fact I've seen many kinds of interleaved accesses:
> - concurrently reading 40 files that are in fact hard links of one single file
> - a backup tool that splits a big file into 8k chunks, and serve the
> {1, 3, 5, 7, ...} chunks in one process and the {0, 2, 4, 6, ...}
> chunks in another one
> - a pool of NFSDs randomly serving some originally sequential read requests
> - now dump(8) seems to have some similar problem.
>
> In summary there have been all kinds of efforts on trying to
> parallelize I/O tasks, but unfortunately they can easily screw up the
> sequential pattern. It may not be easily fixable for many of them.
>
> It is however possible to detect most of these patterns at the
> readahead layer and restore sequential I/Os, before they propagate
> into the block layer and hurt performance.
>
> Vitaly, if that's what you need, I can try to prepare a patch for testing out.
Deadline scheduler should fit my needs, I believe. I can test a patch which
tries to resolve the issue or run some more tests, though.
--
Thanks,
Vitaly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-13 18:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-09 18:04 Slow file transfer speeds with CFQ IO scheduler in some cases Vitaly V. Bursov
2008-11-09 18:30 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-09 18:32 ` Vitaly V. Bursov
2008-11-10 10:44 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-10 13:51 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-10 13:56 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-10 17:16 ` Vitaly V. Bursov
2008-11-10 17:35 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-10 18:27 ` Vitaly V. Bursov
2008-11-10 18:29 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-10 18:39 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-10 18:42 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-10 21:51 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-11 9:34 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-11 9:35 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-11 11:52 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-11 16:48 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-11 18:08 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-11 16:53 ` Vitaly V. Bursov
2008-11-11 18:06 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-11 19:36 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-11 21:41 ` Jeff Layton
2008-11-11 21:59 ` Jeff Layton
2008-11-12 12:20 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-12 12:45 ` Jeff Layton
2008-11-12 12:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-11-11 19:42 ` Vitaly V. Bursov
2008-11-12 18:32 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-12 19:02 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-13 8:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2008-11-13 8:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-14 1:36 ` Wu Fengguang
2008-11-25 11:02 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-11-25 11:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2008-11-25 15:21 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-25 16:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-11-13 18:46 ` Vitaly V. Bursov [this message]
2008-11-25 10:59 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-11-25 11:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2008-11-25 11:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-11-25 11:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2008-11-25 12:03 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-11-25 12:09 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-11-25 12:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2008-11-27 17:46 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2008-11-28 0:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-02-12 18:35 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-02-13 1:57 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-02-13 20:08 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-02-16 2:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-02-17 19:03 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-02-18 18:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-02-19 1:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-02-17 19:01 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-02-19 2:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-19 17:44 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-03-20 8:53 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-03-23 1:42 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-21 18:18 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-04-24 8:43 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-12 18:13 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-02-17 19:01 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-02-19 1:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2008-11-24 15:33 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-24 18:13 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-24 18:50 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-24 18:51 ` Jens Axboe
2008-11-13 6:54 ` Vitaly V. Bursov
2008-11-13 14:32 ` Jeff Moyer
2008-11-13 18:33 ` Vitaly V. Bursov
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