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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] mm: introduce simple_malloc()/simple_free()
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:08:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <491FB8E5.50806@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081115215309.7f29c33c@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven a écrit :
> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:35:03 +0800
> Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> 
>> vmalloc() is not good for performance and increasing fragment.
>> but vmalloc() is need for some subsystems' alternative malloc,
>> like cgroup's tasks file and other subsystems(about 20 subsystems).
> 
> actually what you are pointing out is that these areas need improvement
> to not need such huge blocks of memory... but only a series of smaller
> blocks instead.
> 


Just zap vmalloc()/vfree() then ?

More seriously, vmalloc()/vfree() were designed partly to make people life easier,
not to be *the* premium interface to manage kernel memory

Some parts of the kernel cannot afford the cost of vmalloc()/vfree(), so people
must think and design complex algos.

I personnaly like this cleanup too. For example bnx2 driver actually uses vmalloc() while
a kmalloc() should be OK for bnx2_alloc_rx_mem()

# grep bnx2 /proc/vmallocinfo
0xf8260000-0xf8274000   81920 bnx2_init_board+0x104/0xae0 phys=f6000000 ioremap
0xf8280000-0xf8294000   81920 bnx2_init_board+0x104/0xae0 phys=fa000000 ioremap
0xf82c1000-0xf82c3000    8192 bnx2_alloc_rx_mem+0x33/0x310 pages=1 vmalloc
0xf82d9000-0xf82db000    8192 bnx2_alloc_rx_mem+0x33/0x310 pages=1 vmalloc

I have two comments :

1) Names should be not "simple" : That is misleading. "convenient" maybe, or "slow"...

2) Since vmalloc()/vfree() is potentially a very expensive operation, we should make
   slow_malloc()/slow_free() or whatever name is chosen, uninlined. No need to try to save
   3 or 4 cpu cycles. This will save icache at least.



  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-16  6:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-16  4:33 [PATCH 1/7] mm: introduce simple_malloc()/simple_free() Lai Jiangshan
2008-11-16  4:49 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2008-11-16  8:14   ` David Miller
2008-11-16 18:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-11-16  4:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16  5:03   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-16  5:35     ` Lai Jiangshan
2008-11-16  5:47       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-16  5:53       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16  6:08         ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-11-16  8:23         ` David Miller
2008-11-16  8:21     ` David Miller
2008-11-16  8:19   ` David Miller
2008-11-16 18:57     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 21:39       ` Dave Airlie
2008-11-16 21:51         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 22:42           ` Dave Airlie
2008-11-17  2:08           ` Lai Jiangshan
2008-11-17  4:53             ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-17  5:25               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-17  6:43                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-11-17  7:13                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-17  7:15                     ` David Miller
2008-11-17  8:10                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-11-17  8:24                       ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-18  4:39                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-11-18  5:16                       ` Lai Jiangshan
2008-11-17  4:46           ` Balbir Singh
2008-11-17  4:43         ` Balbir Singh

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