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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] tracing/function-return-tracer: add the overrun field
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:38:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4921BA25.3090704@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081117084923.GD28786@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar a écrit :
> * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Impact: help to find the better depth of trace
>>
>> We decided to arbitrary define the depth of function return trace as 
>> "20". Perhaps this is not enough. To help finding an optimal depth, 
>> we measure now the overrun: the number of functions that have been 
>> missed for the current thread. By default this is not displayed, we 
>> have to do set a particular flag on the return tracer: echo overrun 
>>> /debug/tracing/trace_options And the overrun will be printed on 
>> the right.
>>
>> As the trace shows below, the current 20 depth is not enough.
>>
>> update_wall_time+0x37f/0x8c0 -> update_xtime_cache (345 ns) (Overruns: 2838)
>> update_wall_time+0x384/0x8c0 -> clocksource_get_next (1141 ns) (Overruns: 2838)
>> do_timer+0x23/0x100 -> update_wall_time (3882 ns) (Overruns: 2838)
> 
> hm, interesting. Have you tried to figure out what a practical depth 
> limit would be?
> 
> With lockdep we made the experience that function call stacks can be 
> very deep - if we count IRQ contexts too it can be up to 100 in the 
> extreme cases. (but at that stage kernel stack limits start hitting 
> us)
> 
> I'd say 50 would be needed.
> 
> 	Ingo


Ok I will try with 50. If there are still a lot and often missing traces with this depth, perhaps
should we consider a hybrid solution between ret stack and trampolines?
We could use the normal ret stack on struct info for most common cases and the trampoline when we are exceeding the depth....


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-17 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-17  2:22 [PATCH 3/3] tracing/function-return-tracer: add the overrun field Frederic Weisbecker
2008-11-17  8:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17 18:38   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2008-11-18  8:47     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 14:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18 14:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 15:06           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18 15:13             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 15:22               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18 15:50                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 16:31                   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-18 16:40                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 16:47                       ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-18 16:53                         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18 16:58                           ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-18 17:00                             ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-18 21:01                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 21:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-19  7:35                           ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-21 19:39                           ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-21 19:48                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-21 20:07                               ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2008-11-23 13:18                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 16:43                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18 14:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18 14:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 14:58       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-18 15:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-18 15:11           ` Steven Rostedt

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