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From: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
To: Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:00:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <492856C2.8000707@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <491DBDEA.9010104@gmail.com>

Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> Andreas Mohr wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:07:04PM +0200, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>>> I pretty much studied the datasheet and driver, and this is what I 
>>> found:
>>> btw, my acer 5720 and aspire one share same ALC268.
>>> Some stuff is trivially fixable, some seems to be unfixable at all:
>>
>> Wow, what an extremely in-depth analysis!
>> I just intended to dive into getting mic routing corrected myself,
>> thus you saved me a lot of time!
>>
>>> model=acer is used on my regular laptop.
>>> model-acer-aspire is used on aspire one laptop, and it needs to be 
>>> renamed, as both are aspire.
>>
>> +1 (your analysis of both being rather different - as already pondered -
>> confirms this necessity)
>>
>>> And now for unfixable problems:
>>>
>>> 1) There is strong DC offset on all inputs.
>>> it is even different on left/right and depends on capture volume.
>>> I tried to change the VREF only param that could help, but it doesn't.
>>> I feel that this is hardware flaw.
>>> (It is possible that voltage on inputs is created by circuit made by 
>>> acer, and then ALC268 amplifies it.)
>>
>> Sounds like really bad circuit design then.
>> One would think that the Intel HDA architecture might have builtin
>> measures to compensate for this if needed? DC offset issues on
>> soundcards aren't exactly a new phenomenon after all...
>>
>>> Lastly I noticed that datasheet mentions so called 'coefficients':
>>> the codecs exposes lots of internal and undocumented registers using 
>>> set address/ get/set value scheme.
>>> maybe some of above bugs are fixable there, but ether realtek has to 
>>> provide data for that or reverse engineering of
>>> windows driver is required.
>>
>> I've actually had a peek at the .inf files since I thought that it would
>> already contain register values in those registry keys that it creates on
>> install, but yeah, that's all in-driver it seems.
>> Probably time to ask Acer about specifics, especially since I didn't spot
>> any hda-intel changes in their linux-2.6.23.9lw source.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Andreas Mohr
> 
> Small update:
> 
> 1) The dc offset isn't present on aspire one, really is a circuit design 
> bug I guess 2) Internal mic works perfectly on aspire one, can reproduce 
> the strange behaver at all,
> Probably this was mixer bug.
Finally, I found how to reproduce that bug,
I mean to get normal volume on internal mic, I have to increase volume
only on left or right channel.

So, this happens always, and _only_ when recording _mono_ sound from internal
mic.

Since hardware doesn't support hardware mono input, tested with -D hw:0
I suspect this to be alsa-lib bug, any ideas?
Happens with arecord -D plughw:0 -c1 .

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky





> 
> So aspire one support is almost, only need to add support to restore 
> beep volume
> after resume.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
>     Maxim Levitsky
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-22 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-08  3:26 Bugs on aspire one A150 Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-08 11:57 ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-09  0:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-09  8:54     ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 13:31       ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 15:13       ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-09 18:58         ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 20:09           ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-12 11:08             ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:07               ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 18:05                 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-14 18:05                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 19:00                     ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2008-11-22 19:43                       ` Andreas Mohr
2008-11-24 14:35                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-15  9:21                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:03                           ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 12:09                             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 13:30                               ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:18                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:31                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 14:42                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 14:50                                       ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 15:34                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:02                                           ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 16:06                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 16:19                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:00                                                 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:15                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 17:30                                                     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 17:34                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 18:06                                                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-16 20:28                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-16 21:22                                                             ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17  0:52                                                               ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17  7:57                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 11:30                                                                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-03-17 12:52                                                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17  7:57                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 10:05                                                                 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:38                                                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 10:47                                                                     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 11:25                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-17 16:18                                                                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-17 20:32                                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-18  9:05                                                                             ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-18  9:19                                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-20 18:56                                                                                 ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-20 20:33                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2009-03-22 12:55                                                                                     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-03-23  6:51                                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-11-12 17:20               ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-12 18:53               ` HDA-emu 0.0.1 (Re: [alsa-devel] Bugs on aspire one A150) Takashi Iwai
2008-11-09 10:43     ` Bugs on aspire one A150 Alan Jenkins
2008-11-12 17:48       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 19:06   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-14 19:59     ` Alan Jenkins
2008-11-15 12:52       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-15 12:55         ` Matthew Garrett
2008-11-10 16:51 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-10 21:33   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-10 22:12     ` [ath5k-devel] " Nick Kossifidis
2008-11-12 17:51       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-13 14:58         ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-14  3:47         ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-14 18:57           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-17 17:28             ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-17 18:55               ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-01 15:33       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:28       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:08         ` Nick Kossifidis
2008-12-13 14:36           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:38             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 14:24         ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-13 14:31           ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-30  4:26           ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-30 12:43             ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-31  9:18               ` Andreas Mohr
2008-12-31 13:59                 ` Andreas Mohr
2008-12-31 14:06                   ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-31 14:03                 ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-31 16:51                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-01-01 13:41                     ` Andreas Mohr
2009-01-01 14:15                       ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-01-01 20:27                         ` Andreas Mohr
2009-01-01 15:09                       ` Bob Copeland
2008-12-13 13:15 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 13:35   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-13 14:21     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-13 17:42       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-12-13 18:04         ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-14 22:29   ` J.A. Magallón
2008-12-14 22:57   ` J.A. Magallón
2008-12-14 23:18     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-14 23:24       ` J.A. Magallón
2008-12-14 23:35   ` J.A. Magallón

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