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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Nick Andrew <nick@nick-andrew.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Recursive printk
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 10:42:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <493C7B70.4090307@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081206083030.GF5957@mail.local.tull.net>

Hello,

Nick Andrew wrote:
>> Tejun had a thing a while ago which was kinda intended to solve the
>> same problem.  iirc his approach added a lot more code (bad), but
>> didn't go and add strange new semantics to printk.
> 
> I'm not trying to solve a huge problem (e.g. as Jason Baron's dynamic
> debug does), just a small problem. Why do tasks have to choose
> between double-buffering their messages and making multiple calls
> to printk?

Yeah, my patch happened to solve about the same problem (and mprintk
proper was ~370 lines, so it wasn't too bad).  Mine went the way of
assembling messages piece-by-piece and most of the complexities came
from buffer management and fallback (e.g. even if kmalloc fails to
allocate messages, messages still get printed out, albeit a bit
uglier).

>> IOW, for this to be halfway as useful as you expect, we need a
>> look-out-for-local-printk-hacks maintainer.
> 
> If my patch makes it in, it will be followed by fixes to all
> those local hacks. We might discover some common element so they
> can be made non-local. Once a better way to interface to printk
> becomes prevalent, it will probably be reused. And if it's not,
> then it affects only the one subsystem.

No matter which mechanism, I'd love to have something to solve this in
kernel.  I face this problem quite often and each and every time I
have to come up with some custom hack to work around it.

FWIW, this was the last take of the mprintk patchset.

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/28415

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

      reply	other threads:[~2008-12-08  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-06  6:59 [RFC] Recursive printk Nick Andrew
2008-12-06  6:59 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/3] Split the vsnprintf function into two parts Nick Andrew
2008-12-06  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/3] Add %v support to vsnprintf() Nick Andrew
2008-12-06 17:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06  7:00 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/3] Sample refactor of socket.c to use recursive printk Nick Andrew
2008-12-06  7:03   ` David Miller
2008-12-06  7:18   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-12-06  7:40     ` Nick Andrew
2008-12-06  7:20 ` [RFC] Recursive printk Andrew Morton
2008-12-06  7:33   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-12-06  7:41     ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-06  8:16       ` Willy Tarreau
2008-12-06  9:43       ` Takashi Iwai
2008-12-06  7:42   ` Joe Perches
2008-12-06  8:40     ` Nick Andrew
2008-12-06  9:11       ` Joe Perches
2008-12-06 23:16         ` Nick Andrew
2008-12-06 23:24           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-06 19:35       ` Al Viro
2008-12-06  8:30   ` Nick Andrew
2008-12-08  1:42     ` Tejun Heo [this message]

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