From: "Justin P. Mattock" <justinmattock@gmail.com>
To: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@Lichtvoll.de>
Cc: tux3@tux3.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>
Subject: Re: [Tux3] Tux3 report: A Golden Copy
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:36:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <495E7AD2.3000405@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200901022117.24504.Martin@Lichtvoll.de>
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 31 Dezember 2008 schrieb Justin P. Mattock:
>
>> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>
>>> Am Mittwoch 31 Dezember 2008 schrieb Justin P. Mattock:
>>>
>>>> Daniel Phillips wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday 30 December 2008 23:34, sniper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great, I have mounted tux3 filesystem under UML with stuffs in
>>>>>> this mail, but I still can't debug it with gdb. Anyone gives me
>>>>>> suggestion?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You just have to give a "cont" command a bunch of times and you
>>>>> will eventually get to a command prompt. The reason for this is,
>>>>> uml uses the segfault interrupt as part of its machine simulation,
>>>>> and there is no exsiting way for uml and gdb to communicate in such
>>>>> a way that uml can recognize that the interrupt came from its own
>>>>> code and filter it.
>>>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hmm.. seems like a redundancy;
>>>> Anyways I looked at you're site, but am still
>>>> confused at what tux3 is: what is tux3?
>>>>
>>>> (at first I thought it was a video game, but was wrong);
>>>> can I use tux3 to secure a linux system or is it for
>>>> something else?
>>>>
>>> Hmmm, I thought
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Tux3 is a write-anywhere, atomic commit, btree-based versioning
>>> filesystem. It is the spiritual and moral successor of Tux2, the most
>>> famous filesystem that was never released. The main purpose of Tux3
>>> is to embody Daniel Phillips's new ideas on storage data versioning.
>>> The secondary goal is to provide a more efficient snapshotting and
>>> replication method for the Zumastor NAS project, and a tertiary goal
>>> is to be better than ZFS.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> http://tux3.org/
>>>
>>> was pretty clear. What are you missing?
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>
>> I guess this is what is confusing to me:
>> atomic commit, btree-based versioning.
>>
>
> Ah, the buzz words. ;)
>
> The tux3 mailing list contains quite some design notes about these
> concepts. I think others can give better answers about these concepts - I
> think I understood what it is for, not the implementation details. But
> basically "atomic commit" is a strategy to have the filesystem always in
> a consistent state and btree-based versioning allows to keep different
> versions of a file / directory around. And unlike other filesystem tux3
> has this per inode and not for the complete filesystem. At least if I
> understand correctly.
>
> But at least it should clear that tux3 is a filesystem and not a video
> game ;).
>
>
>> irregardless about how it's worded,
>> I'm wondering if I should use this mechanism,
>> or not.
>>
>
> Right now its still in heavy development and not of release quality. I.e.
> something to play around and test with if you want.
>
> Ciao,
>
Yeah, my bad for thinking tux3 was a video game
(don't ask why); I need to get glasses!!
When I was told it was a filesystem it clicked.
As for the atomic commit Thanks for explanation.
(I honestly had no idea what that meant);
with test and playing around with this, I have
an old dell inspiron hanging around, when
I have the time I'll have to give it a try.
Do I have to wipe out the ext3 partition
on it, or is that O.K.
regards;
Justin P. Mattock
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-02 20:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-31 3:35 Tux3 report: A Golden Copy Daniel Phillips
2008-12-31 7:34 ` sniper
2008-12-31 8:00 ` [Tux3] " Daniel Phillips
2008-12-31 8:14 ` Justin P. Mattock
2008-12-31 10:09 ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-31 17:41 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-02 20:17 ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-01-02 20:36 ` Justin P. Mattock [this message]
2009-01-02 22:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-02 23:11 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-03 1:19 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-03 1:32 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-03 3:03 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-03 3:39 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-04 3:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-04 4:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-04 4:29 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-04 13:04 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-05 1:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-05 2:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-08 2:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-08 4:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-31 8:16 ` sniper
2008-12-31 8:31 ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-31 9:40 ` Daniel Phillips
2008-12-31 14:26 ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-31 18:14 ` sniper
2008-12-31 18:18 ` sniper
2009-01-01 9:56 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-01 14:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-01 23:58 ` Dave Chinner
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