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From: "Justin P. Mattock" <justinmattock@gmail.com>
To: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@Lichtvoll.de>
Cc: tux3@tux3.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>
Subject: Re: [Tux3] Tux3 report: A Golden Copy
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:36:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <495E7AD2.3000405@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200901022117.24504.Martin@Lichtvoll.de>

Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 31 Dezember 2008 schrieb Justin P. Mattock:
>   
>> Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>     
>>> Am Mittwoch 31 Dezember 2008 schrieb Justin P. Mattock:
>>>       
>>>> Daniel Phillips wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> On Tuesday 30 December 2008 23:34, sniper wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Great, I have mounted tux3 filesystem under UML with stuffs in
>>>>>> this mail, but I still can't debug it with gdb. Anyone gives me
>>>>>> suggestion?
>>>>>>             
>>>>> You just have to give a "cont" command a bunch of times and you
>>>>> will eventually get to a command prompt.  The reason for this is,
>>>>> uml uses the segfault interrupt as part of its machine simulation,
>>>>> and there is no exsiting way for uml and gdb to communicate in such
>>>>> a way that uml can recognize that the interrupt came from its own
>>>>> code and filter it.
>>>>>           
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hmm.. seems like a redundancy;
>>>> Anyways I looked at you're site, but am still
>>>> confused at what tux3 is: what is tux3?
>>>>
>>>> (at first I thought it was  a  video game, but was wrong);
>>>> can I use tux3 to secure a linux system or is it for
>>>> something else?
>>>>         
>>> Hmmm, I thought
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Tux3 is a write-anywhere, atomic commit, btree-based versioning
>>> filesystem. It is the spiritual and moral successor of Tux2, the most
>>> famous filesystem that was never released. The main purpose of Tux3
>>> is to embody Daniel Phillips's new ideas on storage data versioning.
>>> The secondary goal is to provide a more efficient snapshotting and
>>> replication method for the Zumastor NAS project, and a tertiary goal
>>> is to be better than ZFS.
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> http://tux3.org/
>>>
>>> was pretty clear. What are you missing?
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>       
>> I guess this is what is confusing to me:
>> atomic commit, btree-based versioning.
>>     
>
> Ah, the buzz words. ;)
>
> The tux3 mailing list contains quite some design notes about these 
> concepts. I think others can give better answers about these concepts - I 
> think I understood what it is for, not the implementation details. But 
> basically "atomic commit" is a strategy to have the filesystem always in 
> a consistent state and btree-based versioning allows to keep different 
> versions of a file / directory around. And unlike other filesystem tux3 
> has this per inode and not for the complete filesystem. At least if I 
> understand correctly.
>
> But at least it should clear that tux3 is a filesystem and not a video 
> game ;).
>
>   
>> irregardless about how it's worded,
>> I'm wondering if I should use this mechanism,
>> or not.
>>     
>
> Right now its still in heavy development and not of release quality. I.e. 
> something to play around and test with if you want. 
>
> Ciao,
>   
Yeah, my bad for thinking tux3 was a video game
(don't ask why); I need to get glasses!!
When I was told it was a filesystem it clicked.
As for the atomic commit Thanks for explanation.
(I honestly had no idea what that meant);
with test and playing around with this, I have
an old dell inspiron hanging around, when
I have the time I'll have to give it a try.
Do I have to wipe out the ext3 partition
on it, or is that O.K.

regards;

Justin P. Mattock


  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-02 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-31  3:35 Tux3 report: A Golden Copy Daniel Phillips
2008-12-31  7:34 ` sniper
2008-12-31  8:00   ` [Tux3] " Daniel Phillips
2008-12-31  8:14     ` Justin P. Mattock
2008-12-31 10:09       ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-12-31 17:41         ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-02 20:17           ` Martin Steigerwald
2009-01-02 20:36             ` Justin P. Mattock [this message]
2009-01-02 22:45             ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-02 23:11               ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-03  1:19                 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-03  1:32                   ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-03  3:03                     ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-03  3:39                       ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-04  3:17                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-04  4:15                           ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-04  4:29                           ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-01-04 13:04                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-05  1:10                             ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-05  2:13                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-08  2:50                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-08  4:38                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-12-31  8:16     ` sniper
2008-12-31  8:31     ` Dave Chinner
2008-12-31  9:40       ` Daniel Phillips
2008-12-31 14:26         ` Andi Kleen
2008-12-31 18:14         ` sniper
2008-12-31 18:18           ` sniper
2009-01-01  9:56           ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-01 14:46             ` Daniel Phillips
2009-01-01 23:58           ` Dave Chinner

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