Re: [ntpwg] Bug: Status/Summary of slashdot leap-second crash on new years 2008-2009

Marshall Eubanks
2009-01-08T19:57:46Z

On Jan 8, 2009, at 10:02 AM, M. Warner Losh wrote:

> In message: <20090108104854.2dbc41b1@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> : > On FreeBSD, Solaris and Digital Unix, I'll point out, that jumping
> : > backwards is used, and has been used since at least 1994. So
> saying
> : > it isn't used in the world today is flat out wrong.
> :
> : I stand by my comment - when was the last time the IERS used a leap
> : second removal ? The code may exist but it doesn't happen.
>
> Jumping backwards is used for every leap second that IERS has ever
> done, which was your original comment. There's has never been a case
> where there was a leap second for jump forward though. The proper
> technical term here is 'negative leap second'. All leap seconds up
> until now have been positive leap seconds, and it is unlikely there
> ever will be a negative one.

I disagree. In the 1970's, the excess LOD was as much as 3 msec.
After going down some, the mid 1990's it rose to around 2 msec.
Now, it is around 1 msec.

Here is a plot

http://www.iers.org/MainDisp.csl?pid=95-100

Only the long period variations count for leap seconds - the seasonal
and other high frequency
oscillations tend to average out.

In the early part of the last century (~1905), it decreased by ~ 5
msec in a year or so.
If that happened right now, it would go to ~ -4 msec negative, and we
would be seeing
2 negative leap seconds or more per year. Even if the decrease from
1975 to 1985 happened again, it
would be at -1 msec, and we would have a negative leap second every
two years or so.

What is a reasonable assumption is that we would likely have a year or
more warning of the
likelihood of a negative leap second.

Regards
Marshall Eubanks

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