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From: Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RFC: futex fault handling and futex key references (NOT FOR INCLUSION)
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:54:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <496837FC.6010405@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1231538564.29452.16.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 23:52 -0800, Darren Hart wrote:
>> While trying to bend my brain around the various layers of fault handling in
>> futex.c, I think I may have uncovered some logical errors (or at least stale
>> code sections).  I've attached two patches that address the alleged problems
>> against linux-tip/core/futexes.  They are based on the following assumption:
>>
>> Since the uaddr passed to a futex function isn't updated within the function,
>> and the mm doesn't change while we're in there, 
> 
> That's not quite true, you _can_ change the memory map by issuing
> concurrent mmap/munmap/mremap etc.. calls from another thread.

Well, what I meant was that the pointer "current->mm" doesn't change, 
since that is what we store in the futex key union.

> The thing is, afaik futexes have never been completely safe wrt
> concurrent mm modifications -- that is, as long as we fail the futex op
> with -EFAULT or similar and not crash the kernel we're good.
> 
>> there should never be a need to
>> make repeat calls to futex_get_key().  Even if the queue_lock is dropped, the
>> futex_q might lose it's waiter (requeued) but the key stays the same.
> 
> Yes, so when we assume the mmap stable (and fail the op whenever that
> assumption proves false) we can say the futex keys are stable and should
> never need recomputation.

And if I understand correctly, we would catch this scenario any time we 
try to use uaddr and find it faulting (during the cmpxchg* calls for 
example).  If the mmap changes too much, we'll exhaust our fault 
tolerance (3) and exit with -EFAULT back to userspace.

Sound right?

Thanks for the review Peter,

-- 
Darren Hart
IBM Linux Technology Center
Real-Time Linux Team

      reply	other threads:[~2009-01-10  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-09  7:52 [PATCH] RFC: futex fault handling and futex key references (NOT FOR INCLUSION) Darren Hart
2009-01-09  7:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] RFC: Fix futex_wake_op fault handling " Darren Hart
2009-01-09  7:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] RFC: Fix futex_lock_pi " Darren Hart
2009-01-09 22:02 ` [PATCH] RFC: futex fault handling and futex key references " Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-10  5:54   ` Darren Hart [this message]

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