From: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>
To: Philippe De Muyter <phdm@macqel.be>
Cc: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: linux kernel without file system
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:44:04 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <496E013C.3050401@davidnewall.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090114144937.GA21043@frolo.macqel>
Philippe De Muyter wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:57:55AM +1030, David Newall wrote:
>
>> Philippe De Muyter wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, I was thinking about reducing the footprint of my kernel by
>>> removing all the fs-related system calls, so the problem is not where
>>> the file-system is, but how to access (serial) devices without giving their
>>> "/dev/..." name.
>>>
>> That's fighting the UNIX design, in "which everything is a file." You
>> can remove all of the disk-based filesystems, but if you try to remove
>> open, close, read or write there'll be almost nothing that you can
>> usefully do.
>>
>
> Of course, I need read, write and ioctl and socket and friends but I do not
> need open, creat, link, rename etc.
I think you do need open; how else will you open the serial port?
The best advice I can offer is: Don't think about kernel threads,
user-space is where you should be; and don't think about removing system
calls. If your application truly is so tight, linux might not be the
right tool for you.
Maybe the embedded linux list might be more in tune with what you're
thinking.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-14 15:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-14 8:46 linux kernel without file system Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-01-14 9:34 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-01-14 9:52 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-01-14 10:18 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-01-14 14:27 ` Rogan Dawes
2009-01-14 14:52 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-01-14 14:57 ` Rogan Dawes
2009-01-14 15:24 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-01-14 15:31 ` Rogan Dawes
2009-01-15 18:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-14 10:34 ` Kay Sievers
2009-01-14 13:49 ` Xavier Bestel
2009-01-17 19:38 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-01-14 11:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-14 12:18 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-01-14 14:27 ` David Newall
2009-01-14 14:49 ` Philippe De Muyter
2009-01-14 15:14 ` David Newall [this message]
2009-01-14 17:02 ` John Stoffel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-14 8:30 Philippe De Muyter
2009-01-14 10:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-15 15:34 ` Enrico Weigelt
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