From: Nicolas Frattaroli <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>
To: Xaver Hugl <xaver.hugl@kde.org>
Cc: "Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
"Harry Wentland" <harry.wentland@amd.com>,
"Leo Li" <sunpeng.li@amd.com>,
"Rodrigo Siqueira" <siqueira@igalia.com>,
"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
"Daniel Stone" <daniels@collabora.com>,
"Dmitry Baryshkov" <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, kernel@collabora.com,
"Derek Foreman" <derek.foreman@collabora.com>,
"Marius Vlad" <marius.vlad@collabora.com>,
wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] Add "link bpc" DRM property
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2026 14:14:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4970515.ElGaqSPkdT@workhorse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFZQkGzxfGP4E18owJf5d6L4n25-nvYn0TG=rTLCzjpj1Hk23w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wednesday, 1 April 2026 13:57:08 Central European Summer Time Xaver Hugl wrote:
> Am Do., 19. März 2026 um 13:28 Uhr schrieb Nicolas Frattaroli
> <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>:
> >
> > This series adds a new "link bpc" DRM property. It reflects the display
> > link's actual achieved output bits per component, considering any
> > degradation of the bit depth done by drivers for bandwidth or other
> > reasons. The property's value is updated during an atomic commit, which
> > is also when it fires an uevent if it changed to let userspace know.
>
> Hi,
> I think it's a really good idea to have a property for knowing the
> actual bpc of the link... however, I do have one big concern with this
> API specifically: It only gives me this information after a modeset.
>
> With this limitation, I can at most show the user which bpc was chosen
> after the apply display settings and have the end user manually test
> and figure things out, but I cannot show in the UI which bpc will be
> chosen with some configuration before they apply it, and I cannot do
> atomic tests to find a desired tradeoff automatically on the
> compositor side.
To do this I'd need to see if there's some feedback mechanism for
the output configuration chosen by the atomic check phase, so that
userspace can then run a DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_TEST_ONLY and get the value
back somehow.
The current implementation wouldn't be able to do this since it
updates the property on commit_tail. I'll need to look into whether
drivers already have everything figured out with regards to link bpc
in the check phase, and how that would best be communicated to
userspace.
> As a side note, for future patches relevant for compositors, please cc
> wayland-devel. It really shouldn't be up to chance whether or not
> compositor developers that would later use the API find out about it
> before it's merged, and keeping track of all of dri-devel is way too
> much to ask from userspace developers.
I'll do that, but consider using lei[1] to have saved searches on lore
delivered to a local Mailbox, a suitable query here may be
dfb:drm_property
which will return all e-mails with diffs matching added lines with
"drm_property" in them, from which lei can then fetch the full
threads.
>
> - Xaver
>
Kind regards,
Nicolas Frattaroli
https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/lore-lei-part-1-getting-started [1]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-01 12:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-19 12:28 [PATCH v5 0/3] Add "link bpc" DRM property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-19 12:28 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] drm/connector: Add a 'link bpc' property Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-19 12:28 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] drm/connector: hdmi: Add support for " Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-19 12:28 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] drm/amd/display: " Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-20 14:32 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Add "link bpc" DRM property Michel Dänzer
2026-03-20 18:02 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-23 10:55 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-23 12:05 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-23 14:38 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-23 16:55 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-23 17:27 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-24 15:25 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-24 16:44 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-26 12:17 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-03-30 16:57 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-30 18:52 ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-31 12:50 ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-31 17:47 ` Harry Wentland
2026-04-01 8:40 ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-01 11:10 ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-01 11:43 ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-01 12:46 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-04-02 17:06 ` Harry Wentland
2026-04-01 13:57 ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-01 14:17 ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-02 17:01 ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-26 13:53 ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-30 19:01 ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-31 10:28 ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-31 17:37 ` Harry Wentland
2026-03-31 8:01 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-31 12:38 ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-03-31 12:56 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-31 14:21 ` Pekka Paalanen
2026-04-01 7:46 ` Michel Dänzer
[not found] ` <CAEsyxyhnALbkaF+9nav8FkW5gcJdtTw5CHhK3Hf8f=fymFiOKw@mail.gmail.com>
2026-03-23 11:44 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-04-01 11:57 ` Xaver Hugl
2026-04-01 12:11 ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-01 12:25 ` Daniel Stone
2026-04-01 12:56 ` Ville Syrjälä
2026-04-01 12:14 ` Nicolas Frattaroli [this message]
2026-04-03 10:23 ` Michel Dänzer
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