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From: Jon Hunter <jon-hunter@ti.com>
To: "Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Dynamic Tick and Deferrable Timer Support
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:29:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4981D957.8040409@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7E82351C108FA840AB1866AC776AEC464723835C@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>

Pallipadi, Venkatesh wrote:

> max_delta would depend on the timer in the platform. With HPET this
> should be much larger than 2.15 secs.

So I agree that the HPET hardware in newer devices themselves would 
allow longer sleep periods. However, this is not the problem I was raising.

The problem is that the dynamic tick uses a 32-bit variable, 
max_delta_ns, to define that max sleep time of a device in nanoseconds. 
The maximum value that this variable can be assigned is LONG_MAX or 
0x7fffffff nanoseconds (see function clockevent_delta2ns). The value 
0x7fffffff nanoseconds equates to ~2.15 seconds. Hence, without 
increasing the dynamic range of max_delta_ns (ie. make this a 64-bit 
integer) or change the base of this variable from nanoseconds to 
milliseconds, I don't see how the device will ever sleep for longer than 
~2.15 seconds.

I have spent several weeks trying to suppress kernel timers using the 
deferred timers and lengthen the sleep time. I am now able to get the 
device to sleep for minutes but I found that max_delta_ns is a limiting 
factor. I will be surprised if you can sleep for longer than ~2.15 
seconds with the current implementation.

Let me know if this makes sense.

> Ok. Thinking about it a bit more, I think we can push this 
> patch along.
> Thomas/Andrew, can one of you pick up this patch..

Great thanks.

Jon

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-29 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-14 20:03 [RFC] Dynamic Tick and Deferrable Timer Support Hunter, Jon
2009-01-15  6:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 18:23   ` Hunter, Jon
2009-01-26 19:48     ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-01-26 21:41       ` Hunter, Jon
2009-01-27 18:36         ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-01-27 18:45           ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-01-29 16:29             ` Jon Hunter [this message]
2009-01-29 17:36               ` john stultz
2009-01-30 19:04                 ` Jon Hunter
2009-01-30 20:29                   ` john stultz
2009-02-07  9:20                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-07  9:20                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-09 19:10                   ` John Stultz
2009-04-08 19:20           ` Hunter, Jon
2009-04-08 22:52             ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-09 15:02               ` Jon Hunter

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