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From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	mfasheh@suse.com, joel.becker@oracle.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org,
	xfs-masters@oss.sgi.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	Ankit Jain <me@ankitjain.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com
Subject: Re: [xfs-masters] [PATCH] fs: Add new pre-allocation ioctls to vfs for compatibility with legacy xfs ioctls
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 18:25:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4985CCFA.4070008@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4985C1B0.8060905@sandeen.net>

Eric Sandeen wrote:
> Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>> I don't understand
>>
>> if you have a structure like
>> struct foo {
>> 	u32 one;
>> 	u32 two;
>> };
>> vs
>> struct foo_packed {
>> 	u32 one;
>> 	u32 two;
>> } __packed;
>>
>> Just adding an __attribute__((packed)) to it clearly does not change
>> the layout of the structure. Are you saying the __attribute__((packed))
>> is an hint to the compiler that foo_packed might be used unaligned. This
>> is just brain-dead, because I can use an unaligned pointer to foo just as
>> I can to foo_packed. Otherwise there is no difference what-so-ever between
>> the two. I have to see it to believe. It is totally the wrong hint in the
>> wrong place taking away valuable meaning of saying "please don't use padding
>> holes in this structure"
>>
>> Sorry for been so slow, I just don't get it.
>> Boaz
> 
> While I'm no gcc guru, I can confirm that gratuitous use of the packed
> attribute is suboptimal; adding "packed" to every ondisk structure made
> obdump -d xfs.ko | wc -l explode by about 15,000 lines on ia64.

Yes! but are the structures the same? that is sizeof(foo_packed) == sizeof(foo) ?
If not then clearly above is expected.

In anyway, if __attribute__((packed)) makes some brain-dead gcc do the wrong thing
putting a _Padding member where you expect an alignment hole, and a BUILD_BUG_ON(sizeof() != ())
statement somewhere in code is a must, specifically for the brain-dead.

> 
> -Eric

There are to many places in Kernel where these things are left to chance that give
me an headache, not talking about cross platform mounts.

Boaz

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-01 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-28 20:59 [PATCH] fs: Add new pre-allocation ioctls to vfs for compatibility with legacy xfs ioctls Ankit Jain
2009-01-31  0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-31  0:38   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-31  1:14     ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-31  1:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-02-01  9:48         ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-01 10:05           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-02-01 10:39             ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-01 10:59               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-02-01 12:32                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-01 15:37                   ` [xfs-masters] " Eric Sandeen
2009-02-01 16:25                     ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2009-02-01 16:35                       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-02-01 16:41                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-02-01 16:57                           ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-02  0:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-02-02  8:29                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-02  8:45                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-02-02  9:33                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-02 20:51                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-02-03  7:31                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2009-02-03 11:21                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-19 18:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-20  8:13   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-06-21 18:41     ` [xfs-masters] " Christoph Hellwig

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