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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jaswinder Singh Rajput <jaswinderrajput@gmail.com>,
	randy.dunlap@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: mmotm 2009-02-02-17-12 uploaded (x86/nopmd etc.)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:37:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4988C73F.2070707@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090203212538.GB20527@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> the include file spaghetti is ... interesting there, and it's historic.
>
> I could blame it on highmem, PAE or paravirt - but i'll only blame it on 
> paravirt for now because those developers are still around! ;-)
>   

Hey, don't forget unification, if we're pointing fingers ;)

> Jeremy, any ideas how to reduce the historic dependency mess in that area?
> I think we should go on three routes at once:
>
>  - agressive splitup and separation of type definitions from method
>    declaration (+ inline definitions). The spinlock_types.h / spinlock.h 
>    splitup was really nice in solving such dependency problems.
>   

That already exists to some extent, though I don't think it's being used 
to maximum advantage (pgtable-[23]level.h vs pgtable-[23]level-defs.h).  
For consistency we'd have  pgtable-4level(-defs).h headers too, and 
top-level pgtable.h/pgtable-defs.h headers.  But its not clear to me 
that would even be enough...

>  - uninlining of methods: instead of macro-ing them - wherever possible. 
>    It's really hard to mess up type + externs headers - while headers with 
>    inlines and macros mixed in get painful quickly.
>   

Yes.  I went through a period of fairly aggressive inline->macro 
conversion, and in many cases the remaining macros are there to #include 
hell.

>  - removal of spurious pile of dozens of #include lines in header files.

Yeah, it would be useful to make sure that each header only #includes 
the bare minimum headers to satisfy its own definitions - but of course 
that's going to provoke a long series of #include whack-a-mole patches.

    J

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200902030112.n131CNiq010549@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2009-02-03 18:58 ` mmotm 2009-02-02-17-12 uploaded (x86/nopmd etc.) Randy Dunlap
2009-02-03 19:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 20:17     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-03 21:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 21:41         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 20:08           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:25             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:29               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:32               ` Andrea Righi
2009-02-03 22:37         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-02-04 19:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 22:13 ` [PATCH] sunrpc: fix rdma dependencies Randy Dunlap
2009-02-03 23:20   ` David Miller

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