From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
Luca Tettamanti <kronos.it@gmail.com>,
Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
khali@linux-fr.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: add "auto" to acpi_enforce_resources
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:37:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <498953DF.5050306@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090204060513.GA28321@srcf.ucam.org>
Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 12:52:06AM -0500, Len Brown wrote:
>
>> While it is slightly off-topic of the (I agree, real)
>> technical issue here, note that polling is not "normal" on ACPI systems.
>> [1] was on SuSE Linux 10.0, which on their own decided to
>> over-ride the kernel and enable thermal zone polling by default.
>
> Checking the DSDTs I have to hand, it seems that polling is expected on
> about 5% of systems via an explicit _TZP and on almost all machines via
> _TSP. Even on systems where thermal notifications are provided, it's
> still up to the OS to poll the zone to find the current temperature and
> take appropriate action. There's still a window for native smbus drivers
> to screw everything up.
>
Note that this not only applies to smbus devices but also to superio devices,
in general these superio hwmon devices use 2 isa ports an index and a data one,
image they mayhem which could happen if for example:
native driver sets index
acpi driver sets index
acpi driver reads data
native driver writes data (to a completely wrong register)
We *really* need to be fixing this.
Len, Matthew, what is you opinion of the proposed auto setting for
acpi_enforce_resources, which is meant to mean strict on known problematic
systems and lax on others?
Not I'm not asking what you think of the code (yet) just what you think of the
principle. If we can atleast all agree on this as a compromise not breaking
hwmon on quite a few systems (the strict setting) while stile providing
something safer then the current lax, then I'm sure we can hash out any code
problems soon enough.
Regards,
Hans
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-04 8:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-25 21:05 [PATCH] ACPI: add "auto" to acpi_enforce_resources Luca Tettamanti
2009-01-26 8:37 ` Hans de Goede
2009-01-29 10:30 ` Thomas Renninger
2009-01-29 15:16 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-01-29 16:29 ` Thomas Renninger
2009-01-29 18:58 ` Hans de Goede
2009-01-29 21:31 ` Jean Delvare
2009-01-30 14:29 ` Thomas Renninger
2009-02-01 21:22 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-02-02 9:11 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-02 11:38 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-02-02 17:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] RFC: ACPI: Interface for ACPI drivers to place quirk code which gets executed early Thomas Renninger
2009-02-02 20:22 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-02-03 13:08 ` Thomas Renninger
2009-02-03 13:45 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-02-03 14:19 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-04 13:37 ` Thomas Renninger
2009-02-02 17:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] RFC: ACPI: Set enforce_resources to strict if a ATK0110 device is found in namespace Thomas Renninger
2009-02-02 20:29 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-02-02 11:38 ` [PATCH] ACPI: add "auto" to acpi_enforce_resources Thomas Renninger
2009-01-29 21:15 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-02-04 5:52 ` Len Brown
2009-02-04 6:05 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-04 8:37 ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2009-02-04 13:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-04 13:26 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-04 14:20 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-10 13:57 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-10 14:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-10 15:32 ` Hans de Goede
2009-02-10 16:24 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-27 13:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-24 12:39 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-03-24 13:21 ` Hans de Goede
2009-03-24 13:43 ` Jean Delvare
2009-03-24 14:29 ` Hans de Goede
2009-03-29 20:16 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-03-29 20:33 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 20:55 ` Jean Delvare
2009-03-29 22:01 ` Luca Tettamanti
2009-03-30 7:36 ` Jean Delvare
2009-04-02 22:59 ` Len Brown
2009-04-03 9:40 ` Jean Delvare
2009-02-12 12:44 ` Jean Delvare
2009-04-02 22:45 ` polling (Re: [PATCH] ACPI: add "auto" to acpi_enforce_resources) Len Brown
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