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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, hpa <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: x86: unify genapic code, unify subarchitectures, remove	old	subarchitecture code
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:48:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49989BCA.9090606@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1234719693.3299.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>

James Bottomley wrote:
> Agree this is a nasty problem.   However, I can't see any reason why
> smp_call_function_many() needs to allocate in the wait case ... and the
> tlb flushing code would be using the wait case.  What about this fix to
> the generic SMP code (cc'd Jens) that would allow us to take on stack
> data and the fast path all the time?
>   

That's how it used to be, but there's a subtle race.  When using 
allocated list elements, the lifetime of the allocated blocks is managed 
via rcu.  When an element is deleted with list_del_rcu(), another cpu 
can still be using its ->next pointer, and so the memory for that list 
entry can't be freed early.  If it is stack-allocated, then the memory 
will get re-allocated when the calling function returns, which will 
trash the ->next pointer that another cpu is still relying on.

> By the way, I can see us building up stack runoff danger for the large
> CPU machines, so the on stack piece could be limited to a maximal CPU
> cap beyond which it has to kmalloc ... the large CPU machines would
> still probably pick up scaling benefits in that case ... thoughts?
>   

It looks like Peter Z just posted some patches to remove kmalloc from 
this path ("generic smp helpers vs kmalloc").  Ah, he's addressed the 
point above:

    Also, since we cannot simply remove an item from the global queue
    (another
    cpu might be observing it), a quiesence of sorts needs to be
    observed. The
    current code uses regular RCU for that purpose.

    However, since we'll be wanting to quickly reuse an item, we need
    something
    with a much faster turn-around. We do this by simply observing the
    global
    queue quiesence. Since there are a limited number of elements, it
    will auto
    force a quiecent state if we wait for it.

(Haven't read the patches in detail yet.)

> Yes ... will do.  If we can't make the unified non-IPI version work fast
> enough, then both of us can share the call function version.
>   

Xen does cross-cpu tlb flush via hypercall, because Xen knows which real 
CPUs (if any) have stale  vcpu tlb state (there's no point scheduling a 
non-running vcpu just to flush its tlb).

    J


> -	data = kmalloc(sizeof(*data) + cpumask_size(), GFP_ATOMIC);
> +	if (wait)
> +		data = &stack_data.d;
> +	else
> +		data = kmalloc(sizeof(*data) + cpumask_size(), GFP_ATOMIC);
>   
You're still leaving CSD_FLAG_ALLOC set?

>  	if (unlikely(!data)) {
>  		/* Slow path. */
>  		for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
>
>   


  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-15 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-08 14:16 x86: unify genapic code, unify subarchitectures, remove old subarchitecture code James Bottomley
2009-02-08 16:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-15 17:41   ` James Bottomley
2009-02-15 22:48     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-02-22 23:25 ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-28 23:41 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29  1:52 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-01-29 11:27   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 20:11     ` Suresh Siddha
2009-01-29 20:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 14:02 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-29 20:36   ` Yinghai Lu
2009-01-29 21:04     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-29 21:24   ` Tim Pepper
2009-01-29 22:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 22:19       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-29 22:58       ` Tim Pepper
2009-01-29 23:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30  9:01       ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-29 22:29   ` Ingo Molnar

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