From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, hpa <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: x86: unify genapic code, unify subarchitectures, remove old subarchitecture code
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:48:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49989BCA.9090606@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1234719693.3299.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
James Bottomley wrote:
> Agree this is a nasty problem. However, I can't see any reason why
> smp_call_function_many() needs to allocate in the wait case ... and the
> tlb flushing code would be using the wait case. What about this fix to
> the generic SMP code (cc'd Jens) that would allow us to take on stack
> data and the fast path all the time?
>
That's how it used to be, but there's a subtle race. When using
allocated list elements, the lifetime of the allocated blocks is managed
via rcu. When an element is deleted with list_del_rcu(), another cpu
can still be using its ->next pointer, and so the memory for that list
entry can't be freed early. If it is stack-allocated, then the memory
will get re-allocated when the calling function returns, which will
trash the ->next pointer that another cpu is still relying on.
> By the way, I can see us building up stack runoff danger for the large
> CPU machines, so the on stack piece could be limited to a maximal CPU
> cap beyond which it has to kmalloc ... the large CPU machines would
> still probably pick up scaling benefits in that case ... thoughts?
>
It looks like Peter Z just posted some patches to remove kmalloc from
this path ("generic smp helpers vs kmalloc"). Ah, he's addressed the
point above:
Also, since we cannot simply remove an item from the global queue
(another
cpu might be observing it), a quiesence of sorts needs to be
observed. The
current code uses regular RCU for that purpose.
However, since we'll be wanting to quickly reuse an item, we need
something
with a much faster turn-around. We do this by simply observing the
global
queue quiesence. Since there are a limited number of elements, it
will auto
force a quiecent state if we wait for it.
(Haven't read the patches in detail yet.)
> Yes ... will do. If we can't make the unified non-IPI version work fast
> enough, then both of us can share the call function version.
>
Xen does cross-cpu tlb flush via hypercall, because Xen knows which real
CPUs (if any) have stale vcpu tlb state (there's no point scheduling a
non-running vcpu just to flush its tlb).
J
> - data = kmalloc(sizeof(*data) + cpumask_size(), GFP_ATOMIC);
> + if (wait)
> + data = &stack_data.d;
> + else
> + data = kmalloc(sizeof(*data) + cpumask_size(), GFP_ATOMIC);
>
You're still leaving CSD_FLAG_ALLOC set?
> if (unlikely(!data)) {
> /* Slow path. */
> for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-15 22:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-08 14:16 x86: unify genapic code, unify subarchitectures, remove old subarchitecture code James Bottomley
2009-02-08 16:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-15 17:41 ` James Bottomley
2009-02-15 22:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-02-22 23:25 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-28 23:41 Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 1:52 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-01-29 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 20:11 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-01-29 20:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 14:02 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-29 20:36 ` Yinghai Lu
2009-01-29 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-29 21:24 ` Tim Pepper
2009-01-29 22:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-29 22:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-29 22:58 ` Tim Pepper
2009-01-29 23:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 9:01 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-29 22:29 ` Ingo Molnar
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