From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Definition of BUG on x86
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:32:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <499D7B9D.7060001@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090219144902.GA8650@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
>
>
>> Ingo Molnar píše v Čt 19. 02. 2009 v 13:47 +0100:
>>
>>> * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ingo Molnar píše v Čt 19. 02. 2009 v 13:22 +0100:
>>>>
>>>>> * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ingo Molnar píše v Čt 19. 02. 2009 v 13:10 +0100:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, the only method I could invent was using gas macros. It
>>>>>>>> works but is quite ugly, because it relies on the actual
>>>>>>>> assembler instruction which is generated by the compiler. Now,
>>>>>>>> AFAIK gcc has always translated "for(;;)" into a jump to self,
>>>>>>>> and that with any conceivable compiler options, but I don't
>>>>>>>> know anything about Intel cc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +static inline __noreturn void discarded_jmp(void)
>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> + asm volatile(".macro jmp target\n"
>>>>>>>> + "\t.purgem jmp\n"
>>>>>>>> + ".endm\n");
>>>>>>>> + for (;;) ;
>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hm, that's very fragile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not just:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> static inline __noreturn void x86_u2d(void)
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>> asm volatile("u2d\n");
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If GCC emits a bogus warning about _that_, then it's a bug in
>>>>>>> the compiler that should be fixed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't call it a bug. The compiler has no idea about what
>>>>>> the inline assembly actualy does. So it cannot recognize that
>>>>>> the ud2 instruction does not return (which BTW might not even
>>>>>> be the case, depending on the implementation of the Invalid
>>>>>> Opcode exception).
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, i'm not talking about the inline assembly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm talking about the x86_u2d() _inline function_, which has
>>>>> the __noreturn attribute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shouldnt that be enough to tell the compiler that it ... wont
>>>>> return?
>>>>>
>>>> Nope, that's not how it works.
>>>>
>>>> You _may_ specify a noreturn attribute to any function (and
>>>> GCC will honour it AFAICS), but if GCC _thinks_ that the
>>>> function does return, it will issue the above-mentioned
>>>> warning:
>>>>
>>>> /usr/src/linux-2.6/arch/x86/include/asm/bug.h:10: warning: 'noreturn' function does return
>>>>
>>>> And that's what your function will do. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I also thinks that this behaviour is counter-intuitive.
>>>> Besides, I haven't found a gcc switch to turn this warning
>>>> off, which would be my next recommendation, since the GCC
>>>> heuristics is broken, of course.
>>>>
>>> so GCC should be fixed and improved here, on several levels.
>>>
>> Agree.
>>
>> But it takes some time, even if we start pushing right now.
>> What's your suggestion for the meantime? Keep the dummy jmp?
>> And in case anybody is concerned about saving every byte in
>> the text section, they can apply my dirty patch?
>>
>> Actually, this doesn't sound too bad.
>>
>
> yeah. Please forward the problem to the appropriate GCC list in
> any case.
>
>
I think the official answer for this case is to use __builtin_trap. But:
-- Built-in Function: void __builtin_trap (void)
This function causes the program to exit abnormally. GCC
implements this function by using a target-dependent mechanism
(such as intentionally executing an illegal instruction) or by
calling `abort'. ***The mechanism used may vary from release to
release so you should not rely on any particular implementation.***
which in principle is hard for us to make use of. In practice I think
it has always been ud2a on x86.
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2000-01/msg00190.html
J
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1234975856.15053.16.camel@nathan.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <499C4786.5010504@goop.org>
2009-02-19 11:40 ` Definition of BUG on x86 Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:19 ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:38 ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 12:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 13:02 ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 14:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 15:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-02-19 15:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:11 ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 16:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:34 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 16:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 20:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-02-19 20:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 16:55 ` Petr Tesarik
2009-02-19 16:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-19 18:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
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