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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Jody Belka <lists-xen@pimb.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: core dom0 support
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:38:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49AB1C7D.2040605@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871vti2zsl.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> Jody Belka <lists-xen@pimb.org> writes:
>   
>> Is it duplication though? I personally have machines with older processors
>> that don't have hvm support. I plan on keeping these around for a good amount
>> of time, and would love to be running them on mainline. So for me, unless KVM
>> is somehow going to support para-virtualisation, this isn't duplication.
>>     
>
> The old systems will continue to run fine with a 2.6.18 Dom0 though.

But that suggests the *only* reason to update kernels is to get new 
hardware support.  Or conversely, we should stop trying to be backwards 
compatible with old hardware in new kernels because there's no reason to 
keep it.

While a lot of the delta between 2.6.18 has been hardware support 
updates, there have been a lot of other useful things: a new CPU 
scheduler, tickless operation (which directly important for 
virtualization), all the cgroups stuff, new filesystems, IO schedulers, 
etc, etc.  All good things to have, even on older hardware.

    J

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-01 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-28  1:59 [PATCH] xen: core dom0 support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Make hvc_xen console work for dom0 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Initialize xenbus " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Set up basic IO permissions " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen-dom0: only selectively disable cpu features Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen dom0: Add support for the platform_ops hypercall Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Add mtrr_ops support for Xen mtrr Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: disable PAT Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen/dom0: use _PAGE_IOMAP in ioremap to do machine mappings Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] paravirt/xen: add pvop for page_is_ram Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-10  1:07   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-10 21:19     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-10 22:21       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-10 22:44         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen/dom0: Use host E820 map Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: implement XENMEM_machphys_mapping Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: clear reserved bits in l3 entries given in the initial pagetables Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen/dom0: add XEN_DOM0 config option Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen: allow enable use of VGA console on dom0 Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Use specific cpu_has_foo macros instead of generic cpu_has() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Kill some unneccessary includes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Use generic_validate_add_page() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Implement xen_get_free_region() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  1:59 ` [PATCH] xen mtrr: Add xen_{get,set}_mtrr() implementations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  5:28 ` [PATCH] xen: core dom0 support Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  6:52   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  7:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28  8:05       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-02-28  8:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28  9:57           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02  9:26       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-03-02 12:04         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 12:26           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-02-28 12:09     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-28 18:11       ` [Xen-devel] " Jody Belka
2009-02-28 18:15         ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01 23:38           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-03-02  0:14             ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01 23:27       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02  6:37         ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02  8:05           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02  8:19             ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-02  9:05               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-04 17:34             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 17:38               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-05 10:59               ` [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2009-03-05 14:37                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 17:31           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 19:03         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-04 19:16           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-04 19:33             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-28 16:14     ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-01 23:34       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-01 23:52         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02  0:08           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02  0:14             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02  0:42               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02  0:46                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-02  0:10         ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-28  8:42   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-28  9:46     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-02 12:08       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-07  9:06         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-08 11:01           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-08 21:56             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-08 22:06               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-08 22:08                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-08 22:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 18:06                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-10 12:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-10 12:49                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-05 13:52   ` Morten P.D. Stevens
2009-03-08 14:25     ` Manfred Knick
2009-03-09 19:51       ` Morten P.D. Stevens
2009-03-09 20:00       ` Morten P.D. Stevens
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-03-11 19:58 devzero
2009-03-14  1:08 ` Morten P.D. Stevens

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