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From: Jesper Krogh <jesper@krogh.cc>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29-rc6
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:19:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49AD90E2.7050209@krogh.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1236110026.6068.18.camel@localhost>

john stultz wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 07:04 +0100, Jesper Krogh wrote:
>> john stultz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 10:53 +0100, Jesper Krogh wrote:
>>>> john stultz wrote:
>>>>> Ok, so it seems ntp hasn't really had a chance to settle down, its only
>>>>> made a 10ppm adjustment so far. NTPd will stop corrections at ~
>>>>> +/-500ppm, so you're not at that bound yet, where things would be really
>>>>> broken.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the affected kernel isn't resetting in the logs anymore, I'd be
>>>>> interested in what the new ppm value is.
>>>> After 20 hours.. its still resetting.
>>>> Mar  2 10:43:24 quad12 ntpd[4416]: synchronized to 10.194.133.12, stratum 4
>>>> Mar  2 10:50:37 quad12 ntpd[4416]: time reset -1.103654 s
>>> So what's the "ntpdc -c kerninfo" output now?
>> Mar  3 06:41:10 quad12 ntpd[4416]: time reset -0.813957 s
>> Mar  3 06:45:20 quad12 ntpd[4416]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 13
>> Mar  3 06:45:36 quad12 ntpd[4416]: synchronized to 10.194.133.12, stratum 4
>> Mar  3 06:51:57 quad12 ntpd[4416]: synchronized to 10.194.133.13, stratum 4
>> Mar  3 07:00:29 quad12 ntpd[4416]: time reset -0.783390 s
>> jk@quad12:~$ ntpdc -c kerninfo
>> pll offset:           0 s
>> pll frequency:        -28.691 ppm
> 
> 
> This is baffling. You've only gone from -34.754ppm to -28.691ppm in over
> a day? And you're still not syncing? If the calibration was so bad that
> NTP couldn't sync, I'd expect the freq value to hit +/-500ppm before it
> gave up. This just doesn't follow my expectations.

It's resetting.. without deep knowledge about ntp, doesnt that mean 
"start over again"? I believe it hits +/-500ppm

> Could you provide:
> /usr/sbin/ntpdc -c version

$ ntpdc -c version
ntpdc 4.2.4p4@1.1520-o Tue Jan  6 15:51:00 UTC 2009 (1)

> Do you see the same behavior if you drop all but one server (including
> the local clock: 127.127.1.0)? 
> 
> You might also add "minpoll 4 maxpoll 4" to the server line to speed up
> testing.

Will try those option while debugging.

> Actually, if you could, I'd be interested if you could send your
> ntp.conf 

http://krogh.cc/~jesper/ntp.conf

But this seems to be a "regression". Since 2.6.27.19 doesn't misbehave. 
Same NTP, same configuration, same hardware. only change is the kernel 
version. Or am I missing some parameter here?

Would it make sense to try to bisect it?

Jesper

-- 
Jesper

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-03 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-23  4:31 Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2009-02-23 14:07 ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 - Fix oops in i915_gem_retire_requests Karsten Wiese
2009-02-26 11:15 ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 17:17   ` MTD_CK804XROM warning (Was: Linux 2.6.29-rc6) Marcin Slusarz
2009-02-26 17:53   ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 19:22     ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:31     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:36       ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:46         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:49           ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 20:53         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-02-26 20:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 19:55 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 20:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 20:43     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:19       ` john stultz
2009-02-26 21:35         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:46           ` john stultz
2009-02-26 21:54             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-26 22:04               ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-27  6:30             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 13:51             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-01 15:04             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:54           ` john stultz
2009-02-26 22:06             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-26 22:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:31               ` john stultz
2009-02-26 22:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:59                   ` john stultz
2009-02-27  7:33                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27 20:50                       ` john stultz
2009-02-27  6:47                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-27 20:35                   ` john stultz
2009-03-01 20:13                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-02  9:53                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-02 21:27                       ` john stultz
2009-03-03  6:04                         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 19:53                           ` john stultz
2009-03-03 20:19                             ` Jesper Krogh [this message]
2009-03-03 22:22                               ` john stultz
2009-03-04 15:30                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-04 18:36                                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-04 18:57                                     ` John Stultz
2009-03-05  2:39                                       ` john stultz
2009-03-05  2:52                                         ` john stultz
2009-03-05  8:43                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06  3:13                                             ` john stultz
2009-03-06  3:54                                               ` john stultz
2009-03-06 11:34                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 20:42                                           ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-10  4:26                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-10 11:29                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-10 19:42                                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-10 22:22                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-15 19:53                                                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 18:40                                                       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15  1:19                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 15:44                                               ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15 18:09                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 18:38                                                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15 19:02                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 19:52                                                       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 18:59                                                         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 19:32                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17  1:43                                                             ` john stultz
2009-03-17  8:14                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 15:48                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 16:13                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 16:28                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 16:40                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 17:28                                                                   ` Olivier Galibert
2009-03-21  9:11                                                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-21 10:06                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-15 20:32                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-03 20:39                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 22:16                               ` john stultz
2009-03-04  5:36                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 15:09   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 15:44     ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 (clocksource) Sitsofe Wheeler

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