From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 10/24] xen: mask XSAVE from cpuid
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:03:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49BD6D0E.1010107@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49BD4CE1.6040100@zytor.com>
H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
>
>> Jan Beulich wrote:
>>
>>> As pointed out on an earlier thread, it seems inappropriate to do probing
>>> like this when there is a cpuid feature flag (osxsave) that can be
>>> used to
>>> determine whether XSAVE can be used. And even without that flag,
>>> simply reading CR4 and checking whether osxsave is set there would
>>> suffice. This is under the assumption that Xen's to-be-done
>>> implementation
>>> of XSAVE support would match that of FXSAVE (Xen turns its support on
>>> unconditionally and for all [pv] guests).
>>>
>> I didn't want to make too many assumptions about how Xen's XSAVE support
>> would look. In particular, I thought it might virtualize the state of
>> OSXSAVE to give the guest the honour of appearing to enable it. A guest
>> kernel may get confused if it starts with OSXSAVE set, as it may use it
>> to control its own init logic.
>>
>
> That wouldn't be an issue if you use the *native* CPUID to look for
> OSXSAVE early on, since such virtualization would only be visible though
> the PV interface, right?
>
> It seems cleaner than probing, to be sure...
>
Well, at the moment the problem is that cpuid (both PV and native) show
XSAVE, but Xen prevents cr4.OSXSAVE from being set, crashing the
kernel. There's now a patch in Xen to mask XSAVE in CPUID, so that
guests don't try to use it; the patch in the kernel is just to support
non-bleeding-edge versions of Xen.
There have been some patches floating around for Xen support of XSAVE,
but I think there are some issues with the variable-sized CPU context
and save/restore/migrate, so they've been put on the backburner until
there's a real need for them. I haven't looked at them, but I wouldn't
have assumed that Xen would necessarily set OSXSAVE for itself, or
require guests to do so (if a guest can make do with a simpler CPU
context structure, then that might be simpler for things like
cross-architecture migration, etc). I think that the only safe
assumption is that XSAVE is available iff cpuid.XSAVE is set, modulo the
bug mentioned above.
I guess if we support XSAVE for any vcpu, all the pcpus must have
OSXSAVE set, and we rely on the fact that the XSAVE format is compatible
with FXSAVE where they overlap. But I really don't know what happens
when guests use xsetbv and how that might be virtualized/paravirtualized.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-15 21:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-13 8:11 [GIT PULL] 2.6.30 Xen core updates Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 01/24] xen: disable preempt for leave_lazy_mmu Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 02/24] xen: separate p2m allocation from setting Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 03/24] xen: dynamically allocate p2m tables Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 04/24] xen: split construction of p2m mfn tables from registration Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 05/24] xen: clean up xen_load_gdt Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 06/24] xen: make xen_load_gdt simpler Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 07/24] xen: remove xen_load_gdt debug Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 08/24] xen: reserve i386 Xen pagetables Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 09/24] NULL noise: arch/x86/xen/smp.c Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 10/24] xen: mask XSAVE from cpuid Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 9:50 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-03-13 15:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-15 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-15 21:03 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-03-15 22:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-16 0:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-16 0:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-16 0:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-16 14:16 ` Jan Beulich
2009-03-16 14:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-16 23:59 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-17 1:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-17 11:56 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-17 15:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-17 15:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-17 15:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-17 7:53 ` Jan Beulich
2009-03-17 10:48 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-17 10:55 ` Jan Beulich
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 11/24] xen: add FIX_TEXT_POKE to fixmap Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 12/24] x86-64: remove PGE from must-have feature list Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-15 21:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-15 21:25 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 13/24] Xen: Add virt_to_pfn helper function Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 14/24] xen: add irq_from_evtchn Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 15/24] xen: add /dev/xen/evtchn driver Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 16/24] xen: export ioctl headers to userspace Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 17/24] xen/dev-evtchn: clean up locking in evtchn Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 18/24] xen: add "capabilities" file Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 19/24] xen: add /sys/hypervisor support Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 20/24] xen/sys/hypervisor: change writable_pt to features Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 21/24] xen: drop kexec bits from /sys/hypervisor since kexec isn't implemented yet Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 22/24] xen: remove suspend_cancel hook Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 10:08 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-03-13 15:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 8:11 ` [PATCH 23/24] xen: use device model for suspending xenbus devices Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-13 10:09 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH 23/24] xen: use device model for suspendingxenbus devices Jan Beulich
2009-03-13 8:12 ` [PATCH 24/24] xen/xenbus: export xenbus_dev_changed Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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