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From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: "linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	iSCSI Enterprise Target Developer List 
	<iscsitarget-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ross Walker <rswwalker@gmail.com>,
	"Ross S. W. Walker" <RWalker@medallion.com>,
	scst-devel <scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"stgt@vger.kernel.org" <stgt@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] [Iscsitarget-devel] ISCSI-SCST	performance (with also IET and STGT data)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:02:32 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D47F28.3060409@vlnb.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D46B8B.5000708@vlnb.net>

Vladislav Bolkhovitin, on 04/02/2009 11:38 AM wrote:
> James Bottomley, on 04/02/2009 12:23 AM wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 08:20 -0400, Ross Walker wrote:
>>> On Apr 1, 2009, at 2:29 AM, Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Ross S. W. Walker
>>>> <RWalker@medallion.com> wrote:
>>>>> IET just needs to fix how it does it workload with CFQ which
>>>>> somehow SCST has overcome. Of course SCST tweaks the Linux kernel to
>>>>> gain some extra speed.
>>>> I'm not familiar with the implementation details of CFQ, but I know
>>>> that one of the changes between SCST 1.0.0 and SCST 1.0.1 is that the
>>>> default number of kernel threads of the scst_vdisk kernel module has
>>>> been increased to 5. Could this explain the performance difference
>>>> between SCST and IET for FILEIO and BLOCKIO ?
>>> Thank for the update. IET has used 8 threads per target for ages now,  
>>> I don't think it is that.
>>>
>>> It may be how the I/O threads are forked in SCST that causes them to  
>>> be in the same I/O context with each other.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure implementing a version of the patch that was used for  
>>> the dump command (found on the LKML) will fix this.
>>>
>>> But thanks goes to Vlad for pointing this dificiency out so we can fix  
>>> it to help make IET even better.
>> SCST explicitly fiddles with the io context to get this to happen.  It
>> has a hack to block to export alloc_io_context:
>>
>> http://marc.info/?t=122893564800003
> 
> Correct, although I wouldn't call it "fiddle", rather "grouping" ;)
> 
> But that's not the only reason for good performance. Particularly, it 
> can't explain Bart's tmpfs results from the previous message, where the 
> majority of I/O done to/from RAM without any I/O scheduler involved. (Or 
> does I/O scheduler also involved with tmpfs?) Bart has 4GB RAM, if I 
> remember correctly, i.e. the test data set was 25% of RAM.

To remove any suspicions that I'm playing dirty games here I should note 
that in many cases I can't say what exactly is responsible for good SCST 
performance. I can say only something like "good design and 
implementation", but, I guess, it wouldn't be counted too much. 
SCST/iSCSI-SCST from the very beginning were designed and made with the 
best performance in mind and that has brought the result. Sorry, but at 
the moment I can't afford doing any "why it's so good?" kinds of 
investigations, because I have a lot more important things to do, like 
SCST procfs -> sysfs interface conversion.

Thanks,
Vlad

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-02  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-30 17:33 ISCSI-SCST performance (with also IET and STGT data) Vladislav Bolkhovitin
     [not found] ` <e2e108260903301106y2b750c23kfab978567f3de3a0@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-30 18:33   ` [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-03-30 18:53     ` Bart Van Assche
2009-03-31 17:37       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-03-31 18:43         ` [Iscsitarget-devel] [Scst-devel] ISCSI-SCST performance (withalso " Ross S. W. Walker
2009-04-01  6:29           ` Bart Van Assche
2009-04-01 12:20             ` Ross Walker
2009-04-01 20:23               ` James Bottomley
2009-04-02  7:38                 ` [Scst-devel] [Iscsitarget-devel] ISCSI-SCST performance (with also " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-04-02  9:02                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin [this message]
2009-04-02 14:06                     ` Ross S. W. Walker
2009-04-02 14:14                       ` Ross S. W. Walker
2009-04-02 15:36                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-04-02 17:19                         ` Ross S. W. Walker
2009-04-01 20:14 ` Bart Van Assche
2009-04-02 17:16   ` [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2009-04-03 17:08     ` Bart Van Assche
2009-04-03 17:13       ` [Scst-devel] ISCSI-SCST performance (with also IET and STGTdata) Sufficool, Stanley
2009-04-03 17:52         ` Bart Van Assche
2009-04-04  8:04     ` [Scst-devel] ISCSI-SCST performance (with also IET and STGT data) Bart Van Assche
2009-04-17 18:11       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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