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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@linux.intel.com, rjw@sisk.pl,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS calls --	infrastructure
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:21:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E17A6E.5000104@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49E0C1AB.2050608@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> 
> kvm might help detecting these issues, but not in fixing them.  If you 
> isolate the BIOS, then you've prevented corruption, but you've also 
> prevented it from doing whatever it is it was supposed to do.  If you 
> give it access to memory and the rest of the system, then whatever evil 
> it has wrought affects the system.
> 
> You could try to allow the BIOS access to selected pieces of memory and 
> hardware, virtualizing the rest, but it seems to me it would be more 
> like a recipe for a giant headache that a solution.
> 

The main thing you could do is drop or virtualize memory accesses to RAM 
it should never access in the first place, like some BIOSes which 
scribble over random locations in low memory.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-12  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-09 23:06 [PATCH 0/6] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:12 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS calls -- infrastructure H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10  8:04   ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 10:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-10 10:46       ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 11:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-10 11:38           ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 11:49             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-11 16:13             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12  5:21               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-04-12 14:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-12 14:39                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 14:59                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 16:33                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-12 18:57                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-13  4:16                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-13  4:24                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-13 16:27                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-13 16:57                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-13 17:00                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-13 18:34                             ` Alan Jenkins
2009-04-13 19:08                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-14  0:06                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14  4:42                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-14  9:03                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-14 15:59                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-13  6:44                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 17:51                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10 17:17     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10 17:19     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the core boot code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the APM code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the EDD code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the MCA code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the video code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10  8:05   ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 18:05 ` [PATCH 0/6] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts Rafael J. Wysocki

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