From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Zhaolei <zhaolei@cn.fujitsu.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@elastic.org>,
Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
Jiaying Zhang <jiayingz@google.com>,
Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>,
Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] tracing: create automated trace defines
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:43:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E7D0BC.4070700@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090417002831.GC20513@Krystal>
Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> "all this code" is actually :
>
> rcu_read_lock_sched_notrace(); \
> it_func = rcu_dereference((tp)->funcs); \
> if (it_func) { \
> do { \
> ((void(*)(proto))(*it_func))(args); \
> } while (*(++it_func)); \
> } \
> rcu_read_unlock_sched_notrace(); \
>
> Which does nothing more than disabling preemption and a for loop to
> call all the tracepoint handlers. I don't see the big win in laying out
> the stack to call this code out-of-line; we would just remove the
> preempt disable and the loop, which are minimal compared to most
> call stacks.
>
Well, look at it from my perspective: Ingo has been repeatedly beating
me up for the overhead pvops adds to a native kernel, where it really is
just a (direct) function call. I want to instrument each pvop site with
a tracepoint so I can actually work out which calls are being called how
frequently to look for new optimisation opportunities.
I would guess the tracepoint code sequence is going to increase the
impact of each pvop call site by a fair bit, and that's not counting the
effects the extra register pressure will have. That's a pile of code to
add.
And frankly, that's fine by me, because I would expect this degree of
introspection to have some performance hit. But it does make the need
for per-subsystem tracing Kconfig entries fairly important, because I
don't think this would be acceptable to ship in a non-debug-everything
kernel build, even though other tracepoints might be.
> So basically, tracepoints are already just doing a function call, with a
> few more bytes for preempt disable and multiple handler support.
>
> About the compiler deciding to put the unlikely branch out-of-line, I've
> never seen any function calls generated just for the sake of saving
> those few bytes, that would be crazy of the part of the compiler.
> However, it can (and should) freely put the stack setup in the coldest
> cache-lines possible, which are reachable by a near jump.
>
No, it wouldn't generate a call. But if its going to put the code out
of line into cold cache-lines, then it may as well generate a call.
Anyway, the important point from my perspective is that tracepoint.h
have no #include dependencies beyond linux/types.h (compiler.h, etc).
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-17 0:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-14 17:23 [PATCH 0/8] [GIT PULL] TRACE_EVENT for modules Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] tracing: consolidate trace and trace_event headers Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 21:51 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-14 22:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] tracing: create automated trace defines Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 23:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-15 1:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-15 16:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 2:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-16 2:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 23:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17 0:03 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17 0:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17 0:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17 0:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17 0:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2009-04-17 3:05 ` [PATCH] tracepoints : let subsystem nop-out the tracepoints at build time Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-20 7:12 ` [PATCH 2/8] tracing: create automated trace defines Andi Kleen
2009-04-21 15:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-21 17:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-21 17:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-21 17:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-21 20:28 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-21 21:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-21 21:23 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-04-21 21:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-22 5:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-22 6:07 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-22 6:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-22 7:26 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-15 7:04 ` Zhaolei
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] tracing: make trace_seq operations available for core kernel Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 19:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-15 2:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 4/8] tracing/events: move declarations from trace directory to core include Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 5/8] tracing/events: move the ftrace event tracing code to core Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 19:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-15 2:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-15 3:40 ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 6/8] tracing/events: convert event call sites to use a link list Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 7/8] tracing/events: add export symbols for trace events in modules Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] tracing/events: add support for modules to TRACE_EVENT Steven Rostedt
2009-04-15 3:22 ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-14 18:15 ` [PATCH 0/8] [GIT PULL] TRACE_EVENT for modules Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 18:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 18:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 18:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 18:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 21:04 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-14 21:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 21:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 21:29 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-04-14 22:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16 16:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-14 21:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-14 21:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 22:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-15 8:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 2:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-16 16:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
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