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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: Xenner design and kvm msr handling
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:41:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49EDB0E0.5060101@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49ED9C70.5010906@redhat.com>

On 04/21/09 12:14, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> xenner & pv-on-hvm
>> ==================
>>
>> Once we have all this in qemu it is just a small step to also support
>> xenish pv-on-hvm drivers in qemu using the xenner emulation bits.
>> Hypercalls are handled by a small pic binary loaded into the hypercall
>> pages. Loading of the binary is triggered by the msr writes discussed.
>> Size of the binary is only two pages: one hypercall entry points, one
>> code. Communication path is the very same ioport interface also used
>> by emu, i.e. it does *not* use vmcall and thus no opcode changes are
>> needed on migration.
>>
> This gives a good case for exporting MSRs to userspace.
>
> Can you explain the protocol used by this MSR? How does the guest know
> how many pages to load? How does the kernel know which type of page to
> put where?

Sure.

   (1) cpuid 0x40000000, check vmm signature
   (2) cpuid 0x40000002 -> returns # of pages (eax) and msr (ebx)
   (3) allocate pages (normal ram)
   (4) foreach page (wrmsr "guest physical address | pageno")

Xen uses msr 0x40000000.  Due to the msr being queried via cpuid it 
should be possible to use another one.  Modulo guest bugs of course ...

> Note that it would still be interesting to have the guest call the
> kernel, so it can kick the host kernel Xen netback driver directly
> instead of going through qemu (and the userspace netback + tap).

With the current codebase netback isn't involved at all.  Backend lives 
in qemu like virtio-net.  It is a very simple one (no GSO support, ...), 
there are tons of opportunities for optimizations.  Don't feel like 
tackeling that right now though.  My patch queue is already deep enougth 
as-is.  Also as time passes the qemu network layer tweaks for virtio-net 
should make that job easier ;)

cheers,
   Gerd


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-21 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-08  1:53 [PATCH] Add MCE support to KVM Huang Ying
2009-04-09 15:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-10  3:00   ` Huang Ying
2009-04-11 12:04     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 12:19       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-11 12:25         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-13  8:26           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-13  2:41       ` Huang Ying
2009-04-13 13:02         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14  2:04           ` Huang Ying
2009-04-14 10:45             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-15  7:24               ` Huang Ying
2009-04-18 22:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-19  8:33             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20  7:52               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20  8:26                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20  8:59                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20  9:05                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20 10:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-20 11:02                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20 11:23                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20 11:27                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20 12:20                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20 12:43                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20 13:24                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20 13:45                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21  9:14                                   ` Xenner design and kvm msr handling Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 10:14                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 11:41                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2009-04-21 12:27                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 12:47                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 13:33                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 16:00                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 16:15                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-22 10:02                                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 16:04               ` [PATCH] Add MCE support to KVM Anthony Liguori
2009-04-21 16:17                 ` Avi Kivity

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