From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760871AbZEGPcW (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 May 2009 11:32:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759396AbZEGPcF (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 May 2009 11:32:05 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:48864 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755383AbZEGPcE (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 May 2009 11:32:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4A02FE91.8070006@zytor.com> Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:30:25 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: Christoph Lameter , Alok Kataria , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , the arch/x86 maintainers , LKML Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Reduce the default HZ value References: <1241462661.412.8.camel@alok-dev1> <4A00ADDE.9000908@zytor.com> <1241560625.8665.17.camel@alok-dev1> <20090507161440.5b9c067d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090507161440.5b9c067d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alan Cox wrote: > On Thu, 7 May 2009 10:13:52 -0400 (EDT) > Christoph Lameter wrote: > >> I think we need to reduce the general tick frequency to be as low as >> possible. With high resolution timers the tick frequency is just the >> frequency with which the timer interrupt disturbs a running application. >> >> Are there any benefits remaining from frequent timer interrupts? I would >> think that 60 HZ would be sufficient. > > 50 works for various european video apps, 60 breaks, 60 works for various > US video apps, 50 breaks. Now that may have changed with all the select > stuff being hrtimer based (which I'd missed). Hence 300 Hz. ;) > Hooray - finally someone admits the *real* problem here, and for power > management too. Otherwise known as "referencing jiffies as a variable must > die" Amen. Also, "using HZ as a unit of measurement must die, too." -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.