From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:31:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A03451E.9020304@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200905072200.22007.arnd@arndb.de>
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Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 07 May 2009, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>
>> I guess technically mmio can just be a simple access of the page which
>> would be problematic to trap locally without a PF. However it seems
>> that most mmio always passes through a ioread()/iowrite() call so this
>> is perhaps the hook point. If we set the stake in the ground that mmios
>> that go through some other mechanism like PFs can just hit the "slow
>> path" are an acceptable casualty, I think we can make that work.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
> An mmio that goes through a PF is a bug, it's certainly broken on
> a number of platforms, so performance should not be an issue there.
>
This may be my own ignorance, but I thought a VMEXIT of type "PF" was
how MMIO worked in VT/SVM. I didn't mean to imply that the guest nor
the host took a traditional PF exception in their respective IDT, if
that is what you thought I meant here. Rather, the mmio region is
unmapped in the guest MMU, access causes a VMEXIT to host-side KVM of
type PF, and the host side code then consults the guest page-table to
see if its an MMIO or not. I could very well be mistaken as I have only
a cursory understanding of what happens in KVM today with this path.
After posting my numbers today, what I *can* tell you definitively that
its significantly slower to VMEXIT via MMIO. I guess I do not really
know the reason for sure. :)
> Note that are four commonly used interface classes for PIO/MMIO:
>
> 1. readl/writel: little-endian MMIO
> 2. inl/outl: little-endian PIO
> 3. ioread32/iowrite32: converged little-endian PIO/MMIO
> 4. __raw_readl/__raw_writel: native-endian MMIO without checks
>
> You don't need to worry about the __raw_* stuff, as this should never
> be used in device drivers.
>
> As a simplification, you could mandate that all drivers that want to
> use this get converted to the ioread/iowrite class of interfaces and
> leave the others slow.
>
I guess the problem that was later pointed out is that we cannot discern
which devices might be pass-through and therefore should not be
revectored through a HC. But I am even less knowledgeable about how
pass-through works than I am about the MMIO traps, so I might be
completely off here.
In any case, thank you kindly for the suggestions.
Regards,
-Greg
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-07 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-05 13:24 [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] add " Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 17:03 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-06 13:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 15:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-06 16:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-05 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] x86: " Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 13:24 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] kvm: add pv_cpu_ops.hypercall support to the guest Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 13:36 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support Avi Kivity
2009-05-05 13:40 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-05 14:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 14:21 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-05 15:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-05 23:17 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 3:51 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-06 7:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-06 13:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-06 16:07 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 17:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 18:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 18:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 18:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 18:16 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 18:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 18:37 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 19:05 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 20:07 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 20:26 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 11:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:07 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 19:12 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 19:21 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 19:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 19:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:25 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 20:34 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 21:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 21:57 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 22:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-08 22:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-11 13:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-11 13:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-07 20:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 20:31 ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2009-05-07 20:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 20:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-05-07 20:50 ` Chris Wright
2009-05-07 23:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-07 23:43 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-08 3:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 7:55 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <20090508103253.GC3011@amt.cnet>
2009-05-08 11:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 3:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 7:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 11:09 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20090508104228.GD3011@amt.cnet>
2009-05-08 12:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 15:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2009-05-08 19:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-08 19:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 14:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 14:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-08 18:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-08 19:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 16:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-07 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-09 12:01 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-10 18:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 13:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-11 16:35 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 17:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 17:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-11 17:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 17:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 18:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 18:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 17:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-13 10:53 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-13 14:45 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-11 16:44 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-11 19:24 ` PowerPC page faults Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 22:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-12 5:46 ` Liu Yu-B13201
2009-05-12 14:50 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-06 13:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] generic hypercall support Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 16:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 8:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 15:20 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 18:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-08 19:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-08 19:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 19:59 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-10 9:59 ` Avi Kivity
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