From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Ryo Tsuruta <ryov@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: vgoyal@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, nauman@google.com,
dpshah@google.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, mikew@google.com,
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Subject: Re: IO scheduler based IO Controller V2
Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:24:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A0440B2.7040300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090507.091858.226775723.ryov@valinux.co.jp>
Ryo Tsuruta wrote:
> Hi Vivek,
>
>> Ryo, dm-ioband breaks the notion of classes and priority of CFQ because
>> of FIFO dispatch of buffered bios. Apart from that it tries to provide
>> fairness in terms of actual IO done and that would mean a seeky workload
>> will can use disk for much longer to get equivalent IO done and slow down
>> other applications. Implementing IO controller at IO scheduler level gives
>> us tigher control. Will it not meet your requirements? If you got specific
>> concerns with IO scheduler based contol patches, please highlight these and
>> we will see how these can be addressed.
>
> I'd like to avoid making complicated existing IO schedulers and other
> kernel codes and to give a choice to users whether or not to use it.
> I know that you chose an approach that using compile time options to
> get the same behavior as old system, but device-mapper drivers can be
> added, removed and replaced while system is running.
I do not believe that every use of cgroups will end up with
a separate logical volume for each group.
In fact, if you look at group-per-UID usage, which could be
quite common on shared web servers and shell servers, I would
expect all the groups to share the same filesystem.
I do not believe dm-ioband would be useful in that configuration,
while the IO scheduler based IO controller will just work.
--
All rights reversed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-08 14:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-05 19:58 IO scheduler based IO Controller V2 Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 01/18] io-controller: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 3:16 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-06 13:31 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 02/18] io-controller: Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-05-22 6:43 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-22 12:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-23 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 03/18] io-controller: Charge for time slice based on average disk rate Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 04/18] io-controller: Modify cfq to make use of flat elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-05-22 8:54 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-22 12:33 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 05/18] io-controller: Common hierarchical fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-05-07 7:42 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-07 8:05 ` Li Zefan
2009-05-08 12:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-08 21:09 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-08 21:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 06/18] io-controller: cfq changes to use " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 07/18] io-controller: Export disk time used and nr sectors dipatched through cgroups Vivek Goyal
2009-05-13 2:39 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-13 14:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-14 7:53 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 08/18] io-controller: idle for sometime on sync queue before expiring it Vivek Goyal
2009-05-13 15:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-09 7:56 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-09 17:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-10 1:30 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-10 13:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-11 1:22 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 09/18] io-controller: Separate out queue and data Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 10/18] io-conroller: Prepare elevator layer for single queue schedulers Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 11/18] io-controller: noop changes for hierarchical fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 12/18] io-controller: deadline " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 13/18] io-controller: anticipatory " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 14/18] blkio_cgroup patches from Ryo to track async bios Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 15/18] io-controller: map async requests to appropriate cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 16/18] io-controller: Per cgroup request descriptor support Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 17/18] io-controller: IO group refcounting support Vivek Goyal
2009-05-08 2:59 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-08 12:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-05 19:58 ` [PATCH 18/18] io-controller: Debug hierarchical IO scheduling Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 21:40 ` IKEDA, Munehiro
2009-05-06 21:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 22:19 ` IKEDA, Munehiro
2009-05-06 22:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 23:01 ` IKEDA, Munehiro
2009-05-05 20:24 ` IO scheduler based IO Controller V2 Andrew Morton
2009-05-05 22:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-06 3:42 ` Balbir Singh
2009-05-06 10:20 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-05-06 17:10 ` Balbir Singh
2009-05-06 18:47 ` Divyesh Shah
2009-05-06 20:42 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-06 2:33 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 17:59 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-06 20:07 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-06 21:21 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 22:02 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-06 22:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 20:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 21:34 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-06 21:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 22:35 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-07 1:48 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-07 9:04 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-07 12:22 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-07 14:11 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-07 14:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-07 15:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-07 15:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-07 22:19 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-08 18:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-08 20:05 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-08 21:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-09 9:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-14 10:31 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-14 16:43 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-05-07 22:40 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-07 0:18 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-07 1:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-11 11:23 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-11 12:49 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-08 14:24 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2009-05-11 10:11 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-06 3:41 ` Balbir Singh
2009-05-06 13:28 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-06 8:11 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-06 16:10 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-07 5:36 ` Li Zefan
2009-05-08 13:37 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-11 2:59 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-07 5:47 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-08 9:45 ` [PATCH] io-controller: Add io group reference handling for request Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-08 13:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-08 17:41 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-08 18:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-08 19:06 ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-11 1:33 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-11 15:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-15 5:15 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-15 7:48 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-15 8:16 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-15 14:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-15 14:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-17 10:26 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-18 14:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-18 14:39 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-26 11:34 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-27 6:56 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-27 8:17 ` Andrea Righi
2009-05-27 11:53 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-27 17:32 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-19 12:18 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-15 7:40 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-15 14:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-13 2:00 ` [PATCH] IO Controller: Add per-device weight and ioprio_class handling Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-13 14:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-14 0:59 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-13 15:29 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-14 1:02 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-13 15:59 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-14 1:51 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-14 2:25 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-13 17:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-14 1:24 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-13 19:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-14 1:35 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-14 7:26 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-14 15:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-18 22:33 ` IKEDA, Munehiro
2009-05-20 1:44 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-20 15:41 ` IKEDA, Munehiro
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