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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@aristanetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/20] sysfs: Handle the general case of removing of directories with subdirectories
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:37:54 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A1512E2.2040505@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1octm287f.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

Hi,

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> The locking is correct, something that is much more difficult to
>>> tell with your version.
>> Why? :-)
> 
> Because mine is all in a single place and there is no optimization
> to get locks I don't need.
> 
> Unless I have misread your patch you are failing to get the
> i_mutex for child directories, if it possible to get it.
> 
> Something that it is trivial to see that I always do correctly.
> Simply because the distance between the lock and where I depend on
> it is so small.

If this patch series works out, we don't need to grab i_mutexes while
manipulating sd's, right?

>>> I would prefer to only remove empty directories.  But when I
>>> instrumented things up I found cases where that does indeed happen.
>> IIRC, my version did the whole thing while holding sysfs_mutex, so
>> it's safe against such races.  I can't really see why ops like this
>> can't be atomic in sysfs.  I don't really care how things are done but
>> please make it atomic.
> 
> Nope.  Holding the sysfs_mutex does not make you safe from such races.
> It actually makes you more prone to someone adding a directory entry to
> a deleted directory and not having it deleted.  I have a chance of
> deleting the added directory entry.
> 
> The problem is that sysfs_add_one takes to sysfs_dirents.  The look up
> of the directory is done before we take the sysfs_mutex.  So the
> sysfs_dirent could be grabbed at any time.

Well, it can be trivially fixed by checking the removed flag.  The
add/rm thing is designed to help additions and removals of multiple
nodes at one go and I'd really like to see it working that way.  Any
chance you can change code toward that direction?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-21  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 197+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-20  4:09 [PATCH 0/20] Sysfs cleanups Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-20 15:37 ` Greg KH
2009-05-20 23:04   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:27 ` [PATCH 01/20] sysfs: Implement sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:27   ` [PATCH 02/20] driver core: Use sysfs_rename_link in device_rename Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:27     ` [PATCH 03/20] sysfs: Remove now unnecessary error reporting suppression Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:27       ` [PATCH 04/20] sysfs: Handle the general case of removing of directories with subdirectories Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:27         ` [PATCH 05/20] sysfs: Rename sysfs_d_iput to sysfs_dentry_iput Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28           ` [PATCH 06/20] sysfs: Use dentry_ops instead of directly playing with the dcache Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28             ` [PATCH 07/20] sysfs: Simplify sysfs_chmod_file semantics Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28               ` [PATCH 08/20] sysfs: Optimize just changing the sysfs file mode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                 ` [PATCH 09/20] sysfs: Simplify iattr assignments Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                   ` [PATCH 10/20] sysfs: Fix locking and factor out sysfs_sd_setattr Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                     ` [PATCH 11/20] sysfs: Update s_iattr on link and unlink Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                       ` [PATCH 12/20] sysfs: Nicely indent sysfs_symlink_inode_operations Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                         ` [PATCH 13/20] sysfs: Implement sysfs_getattr & sysfs_permission Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                           ` [PATCH 14/20] sysfs: In sysfs_chmod_file lazily propagate the mode change Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                             ` [PATCH 15/20] sysfs: Kill sysfs_addrm_start and sysfs_addrm_finish Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                               ` [PATCH 16/20] sysfs: Propagate renames to the vfs on demand Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                                 ` [PATCH 17/20] sysfs: Merge sysfs_rename_dir and sysfs_move_dir Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                                   ` [PATCH 18/20] sysfs: Pass super_block to sysfs_get_inode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                                     ` [PATCH 19/20] sysfs: Kill unused sysfs_sb variable Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  0:28                                       ` [PATCH 20/20] sysfs: Normalize error handling in sysfs_fill_inode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  9:43                                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-21 10:29                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  9:42                                   ` [PATCH 17/20] sysfs: Merge sysfs_rename_dir and sysfs_move_dir Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  9:41                                 ` [PATCH 16/20] sysfs: Propagate renames to the vfs on demand Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  9:31                               ` [PATCH 15/20] sysfs: Kill sysfs_addrm_start and sysfs_addrm_finish Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  9:16                             ` [PATCH 14/20] sysfs: In sysfs_chmod_file lazily propagate the mode change Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  9:14                           ` [PATCH 13/20] sysfs: Implement sysfs_getattr & sysfs_permission Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  7:42                         ` [PATCH 12/20] sysfs: Nicely indent sysfs_symlink_inode_operations Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  8:42                       ` [PATCH 11/20] sysfs: Update s_iattr on link and unlink Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  7:42                     ` [PATCH 10/20] sysfs: Fix locking and factor out sysfs_sd_setattr Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  7:31                   ` [PATCH 09/20] sysfs: Simplify iattr assignments Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  7:29                 ` [PATCH 08/20] sysfs: Optimize just changing the sysfs file mode Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  7:54                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  8:41                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  6:42               ` [PATCH 07/20] sysfs: Simplify sysfs_chmod_file semantics Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  6:41             ` [PATCH 06/20] sysfs: Use dentry_ops instead of directly playing with the dcache Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  7:37               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  7:40                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  6:24           ` [PATCH 05/20] sysfs: Rename sysfs_d_iput to sysfs_dentry_iput Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  6:23         ` [PATCH 04/20] sysfs: Handle the general case of removing of directories with subdirectories Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  7:29           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  7:36             ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  8:04               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  8:37                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-05-21  9:18                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  9:28                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-23  6:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 11:35                         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-23 20:09                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 20:46                             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-21  5:37       ` [PATCH 03/20] sysfs: Remove now unnecessary error reporting suppression Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  6:12         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21  6:20           ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  1:49   ` [PATCH 01/20] sysfs: Implement sysfs_rename_link Tejun Heo
2009-05-21  5:35   ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-21 10:06     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-21 10:29       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-21 11:40         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-28  0:14   ` Greg KH
2009-05-28  0:30     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-28  0:37       ` Greg KH
2009-05-28 22:58         ` [PATCH 0/24] sysfs cleanups Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 01/24] sysfs: Implement sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 02/24] driver core: Use sysfs_rename_link in device_rename Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 03/24] sysfs: Remove now unnecessary error reporting suppression Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 04/24] sysfs: Normalize removing sysfs directories Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29  9:14             ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-29 16:52               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-30 10:43                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-30 13:07                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-30 13:20                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-30 14:29                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-30 13:59                     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-30 14:19                     ` James Bottomley
2009-05-30 15:15                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-30 15:51                         ` James Bottomley
2009-05-30 21:20                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 05/24] sysfs: Rename sysfs_d_iput to sysfs_dentry_iput Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 06/24] sysfs: Use dentry_ops instead of directly playing with the dcache Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 07/24] sysfs: Simplify sysfs_chmod_file semantics Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 08/24] sysfs: Optimize just changing the sysfs file mode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 09/24] sysfs: Simplify iattr assignments Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 10/24] sysfs: Fix locking and factor out sysfs_sd_setattr Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 11/24] sysfs: Update s_iattr on link and unlink Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 12/24] sysfs: Nicely indent sysfs_symlink_inode_operations Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 13/24] sysfs: Implement sysfs_getattr & sysfs_permission Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 14/24] sysfs: In sysfs_chmod_file lazily propagate the mode change Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 15/24] sysfs: Kill sysfs_addrm_start and sysfs_addrm_finish Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 16/24] sysfs: Propagate renames to the vfs on demand Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 17/24] sysfs: Merge sysfs_rename_dir and sysfs_move_dir Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:00           ` [PATCH 18/24] sysfs: Pass super_block to sysfs_get_inode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:01           ` [PATCH 19/24] sysfs: Kill unused sysfs_sb variable Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:01           ` [PATCH 20/24] sysfs: Normalize error handling in sysfs_fill_inode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:01           ` [PATCH 21/24] sysfs: Rename sysfs_mv_dir sysfs_rename Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:01           ` [PATCH 22/24] sysfs: Make sysfs_rename_link atomic Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29  9:16             ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-29 17:17               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-30 10:48                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-28 23:01           ` [PATCH 23/24] driver core: Don't remove kobjects in device_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 23:01           ` [PATCH 24/24] sysfs: In sysfs_add_one fail if the targe directory has been removed Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29  9:18             ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-29 20:18           ` [PATCH 0/26] sysfs cleanups v3 Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 01/26] sysfs: Implement sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 02/26] driver core: Use sysfs_rename_link in device_rename Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 03/26] sysfs: Remove now unnecessary error reporting suppression Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 04/26] sysfs: sysfs_remove_dir stop checking for bogus cases Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-03 23:53               ` Greg KH
2009-06-04  0:41                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 05/26] sysfs: Improve sysfs directory deletion debugging Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 06/26] sysfs: Don't hold addrm_start/addrm_finish over multiple removals Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 07/26] sysfs: Rename sysfs_d_iput to sysfs_dentry_iput Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 08/26] sysfs: Use dentry_ops instead of directly playing with the dcache Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 09/26] sysfs: Simplify sysfs_chmod_file semantics Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 10/26] sysfs: Optimize just changing the sysfs file mode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 11/26] sysfs: Simplify iattr assignments Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 12/26] sysfs: Fix locking and factor out sysfs_sd_setattr Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 13/26] sysfs: Update s_iattr on link and unlink Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 14/26] sysfs: Nicely indent sysfs_symlink_inode_operations Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 15/26] sysfs: Implement sysfs_getattr & sysfs_permission Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 16/26] sysfs: In sysfs_chmod_file lazily propagate the mode change Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 17/26] sysfs: Kill sysfs_addrm_start and sysfs_addrm_finish Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 18/26] sysfs: Propagate renames to the vfs on demand Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 19/26] sysfs: Merge sysfs_rename_dir and sysfs_move_dir Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 20/26] sysfs: Pass super_block to sysfs_get_inode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 21/26] sysfs: Kill unused sysfs_sb variable Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 22/26] sysfs: Normalize error handling in sysfs_fill_inode Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 23/26] sysfs: Rename sysfs_mv_dir sysfs_rename Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 24/26] sysfs: Make sysfs_rename_link atomic Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 25/26] driver core: Don't remove kobjects in device_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-29 20:19             ` [PATCH 26/26] sysfs: In sysfs_add_one fail if the targe directory has been removed Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28  1:51       ` [PATCH 01/20] sysfs: Implement sysfs_rename_link Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 20:13 ` [PATCH 21/20] sysfs: Rename sysfs_mv_dir sysfs_rename Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 20:13 ` [PATCH 22/20] sysfs: Make sysfs_rename_link atomic Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 21:32   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-23 23:21     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-24 13:03       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-23 20:13 ` [PATCH 23/20] driver core: Don't remove kobjects in device_shutdown Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 22:15   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-23 20:13 ` [PATCH 24/20] sysfs: In sysfs_add_one fail if the targe directory has been removed Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 21:29   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-23 20:13 ` [PATCH 25/20] sysfs: Only support removing emtpy sysfs directories Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-23 21:27   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-24 12:59     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-24 14:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-24 15:20         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-25  2:06           ` Alan Stern
2009-05-25 11:45             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-25 12:01               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-25 15:49                 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-25 18:19                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-25 20:14                     ` Alan Stern
2009-05-26 16:27               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-26 19:29                 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-26 21:09                   ` James Bottomley
2009-05-26 21:13                     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-26 21:56                       ` Alan Stern
2009-05-26 22:03                         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-26 23:49                           ` James Bottomley
2009-05-27  0:02                             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-27  2:17                               ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 11:35                                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-05-27 16:01                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-05-27 16:16                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 16:24                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-05-27 17:01                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 17:08                                           ` James Bottomley
2009-05-27 18:07                                             ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 19:44                                               ` James Bottomley
2009-05-27 20:40                                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 20:49                                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-05-27 21:31                                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 21:42                                                       ` James Bottomley
2009-05-27 22:15                                                         ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 22:22                                                           ` James Bottomley
2009-05-28 15:24                                                             ` Alan Stern
2009-05-28 15:45                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-28 17:51                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-28 18:21                                                               ` James Bottomley
2009-05-28 20:02                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2009-05-28 20:10                                                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-05-28 21:04                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-05-29 12:32                                                                       ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-05-29 20:08                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 18:00                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-27 18:15                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 18:24                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-27 21:38                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-05-27 22:06                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-27 22:18                                           ` Alan Stern
2009-05-26 21:39                     ` Alan Stern
2009-05-25  7:44           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-25  7:53             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-25 10:51               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-24  3:24   ` Tejun Heo

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