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From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
	Zhaolei <zhaolei@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@redhat.com>,
	Jiaying Zhang <jiayingz@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] tracing/events: nicer print format for parsing
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:59:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2F1376.7040500@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0906091531090.30552@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>>  
>>> The language that is added by this patch is of the following:
>>>
>>>  * FMT :=  constant string FMT | COMMAND FMT | empty
>>>  * COMMAND := <TYPE:FIELD> | <mask:FIELD:DELIM:MASKS> | <sym:FIELD:SYMBOLS> |
>>>  *               <if:FIELD:TRUE:FALSE>
>>>  * TYPE := int | hex | ptr | string | strarray
>>>  * FIELD := defined by the event structure
>>>  * MASKS := MASK=NAME,MASKS | MASK=NAME
>>>  * MASK := the bit mask to match
>>>  * DELIM := delimiter to separate the fields. None and ':' are both allowed
>>>  * SYMBOLS := SYM=NAME,SYMBOLS | SYM=NAME
>>>  * SYM := the symbol value to test against
>>>  * TRUE := print when field is non zero
>>>  * FALSE := print when field is zero or NULL
>>>  * NAME := the name to write when a match is found
>>>  *
>>>  * A '\<' would print '<'
>>
>> But I wonder if the above new language is not breaking the charm
>> of the TRACE_EVENT(), which charm is that it's easy to implement (hopefully).
>>
>> Everyone knows the printk formats. And I guess this new thing is easy and
>> quick to learn. But because it's a new unknown language, the TRACE_EVENT
>> will become less readable, less reachable for newcomers in TRACE_EVENT.
> 
> I tried to avoid this too, but when I started writing a tool in C that 
> would parse the format file, I found that the printf was horrible.
> 
> Note, I will still keep the TP_printk() macro, that will not change. The 
> new macro is TP_FORMAT() that preforms the tags. Thus, if you really want 
> it to print out, you can use TP_printk, but the user space tools that read 
> the binary will not know how to read it unless the printk is simple.
> 
> I really want to keep this language simple. If anyone has any better 
> ideas, I'm all for it.
> 
> I barfed when I saw this in irq_handler_entry:
> 
>   print fmt: "irq=%d handler=%s", REC->irq, (char *)((void *)REC + REC->__data_loc_name)
> 

I barfed too when I saw this. Introducing a new format is
very meaningful. And this print format looks well.
Good Work!

I'm trying to write user-space tools. Could you tell me your tools'
developing status? And the aim of these tools? Will it be public?

I'm wandering whether I should stop this trying.

Lai.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-10  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-09  1:45 [RFC PATCH 0/5] simplify the print fmt in the event format files Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] tracing: add trace_seq_vprint interface Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] tracing/events: nicer print format for parsing Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09 19:22   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-06-09 19:45     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09 20:01       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-10  1:59       ` Lai Jiangshan [this message]
2009-06-10  5:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10  9:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-10  9:48     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-10 10:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 11:31         ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-06-10 11:51           ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-06-10 12:18         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 17:16           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-10 17:56             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 18:39               ` [PATCH][GIT PULL] tracing: do not translate event helper macros in print format Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 20:48                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 12:52                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 13:04                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 14:32         ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] tracing/events: nicer print format for parsing Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-10 12:47       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] tracing/events: modify irq print to new format Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10  9:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-10 12:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] tracing/events: modify sched " Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09  1:45 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] tracing/events: modify kmem " Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09  7:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-09  8:06     ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 13:08       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-09 12:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] simplify the print fmt in the event format files Ingo Molnar
2009-06-09 12:57   ` Steven Rostedt

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