From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
To: Corentin Chary <corentin.chary@gmail.com>
Cc: Darren Salt <linux@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
acpi4asus-user@lists.sourceforge.net,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.29] eeepc-laptop: report brightness control events via the input layer
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:33:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A337251.7010705@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71cd59b00906130155u2757ade3t3378685846b80410@mail.gmail.com>
Corentin Chary wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Alan
> Jenkins<sourcejedi.lkml@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/4/09, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 06:57:50PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote:
>>>
>>>> This maps the brightness control events to one of two keys, either
>>>> KEY_BRIGHTNESSDOWN or KEY_BRIGHTNESSUP, as needed.
>>>>
>>>> Some mapping has to be done due to the fact that the BIOS reports them as
>>>> <base value> + <current brightness index>; the selection is done according
>>>> to
>>>> the sign of the change in brightness (if this is 0, no keypress is
>>>> reported).
>>>>
>>>> (Ref.
>>>> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-eeepc-devel/2009-April/002001.html)
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Darren Salt <linux@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk>
>>>>
>>> The reason I didn't do this is that the Eee changes the input brightness
>>> in hardware, which means reporting it via the input layer as well can
>>> cause a single keypress to raise the brightness by two steps - one in
>>> hardware and one triggered by userland's response to the key press. I'd
>>> be a little bit wary of this causing problems.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, the default behaviour of the acpi video driver is to
>>> change the brightness itself and then also to send the even to
>>> userspace, so I guess if it was going to break things it probably would
>>> have done already...
>>>
>> Actually, I think userspace has learnt to hack around it but it
>> doesn't work perfectly. I would like to request that this change be
>> reverted, or otherwise improved.
>>
>> Before this patch (2.6.29.4), gnome-power-manager doesn't interfere
>> with the brightness keys, and they work smoothly.
>>
>> After this patch (2.6.30-rc7), g-p-m produces a "nice" popup in the
>> middle of my tiny netbook screen. Unfortunately it can't be disabled,
>> but that's not your fault :-). The brightness controls generally work
>> ok. It doesn't jump two steps in response to one brightness keypress.
>> But:
>>
>> 1) If I'm thrashing the SSD. I get jerky after-effects, where g-p-m
>> seems to take too long to "catch up" with the brightness change.
>>
>
> There is the same "lag" problem with sound :/
>
Yeah :/. At it's worst, it isn't a pure "lag". It's a bit harder to
explain. The firmware still changes the brightness immediately. It
seems that when g-p-m gets delayed, it responds _wrongly_. It doesn't
realize that the firmware already changed the brightness, so it changes
the brightness again.
That's why I think this is a bad "feature". User-space is working
around it, but the workaround isn't reliable. I think the proper
solution is that if userspace wants to respond to firmware-initiated
brightness changes, it should listen for uevents on the brightness class
device.
You can see the problem most clearly by pressing the brightness keys in
quick succession e.g. 3 times in a row, and see 3+3 brightness changes.
I reproduced this with
1) 2 writers:
F=1; while true do dd if=/dev/zero of=$F bs=1M count=1 conv=sync; done &
F=2; while true do dd if=/dev/zero of=$F bs=1M count=1 conv=sync; done &
2) 1 reader:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null
3) Drop caches before pressing the brightness keys
echo 1 > /sys/proc/vm/drop_caches
>> 2) If I go all the way down from full (holding down the "brightness
>> down" key), and then back up a few steps. I get a noticable flash
>> where the brightness looks to go up two steps, then down one. It's
>> probably most noticable here because the step change between the
>> lowest and the second lowest brightness is much more visible than any
>> of the other steps.
>>
>>
> I tried to install gnome-power-manager to test that, but there is no "popup".
> What do I have to install to test that ? entire gnome desktop :/ ?
>
> Thanks
>
That's weird. I'm running it from KDE here (g-p-m package version
2.22.1-4 on debian stable). I'm pretty sure the only other GNOME app I
have installed is Pidgin. I would know if I had much more installed,
because I'm often running short of disk space :-).
Maybe you have a newer version, that doesn't try to do such unreliable
things?
Thanks for your time
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-13 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-03 17:57 [PATCH 2.6.29] eeepc-laptop: report brightness control events via the input layer Darren Salt
2009-04-04 4:18 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-04-04 8:33 ` Corentin Chary
2009-04-04 12:20 ` Darren Salt
2009-04-04 12:35 ` Corentin Chary
2009-04-04 22:10 ` Darren Salt
2009-04-05 8:22 ` Corentin Chary
2009-06-08 15:24 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-13 8:55 ` Corentin Chary
2009-06-13 9:33 ` Alan Jenkins [this message]
2009-06-13 10:06 ` Corentin Chary
2009-06-13 12:55 ` Darren Salt
2009-06-13 17:51 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-14 19:26 ` Corentin Chary
2009-06-15 8:09 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-15 8:12 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-16 8:33 ` [gpm] " Richard Hughes
2009-06-16 8:34 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-16 8:47 ` Richard Hughes
2009-06-16 9:44 ` Corentin Chary
2009-06-16 10:04 ` Richard Hughes
2009-06-18 13:33 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-06-18 22:44 ` Corentin Chary
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