From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Anders Kaseorg <andersk@ksplice.com>,
Tim Abbott <tabbott@ksplice.com>,
systemtap <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
DLE <dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 0/7] kprobes: Kprobes jump optimization support
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:28:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A4110A3.2060808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bpoe29jo.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
Andi Kleen wrote:
> Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Andi,
>>
>> Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com> writes:
>>>> The gcc's crossjumping unifies equivalent code by inserting indirect
>>>> jumps which jump into other function body. It is hard to know to where
>>>> these jumps jump, so I decided to disable it when setting
>>>> CONFIG_OPTPROBES=y.
>>> That sounds quite bad. Tail call optimization is an important optimization
>>> that especially on kernel style code (lots of indirect pointers
>>> and sometimes deep call chains) is very useful. It would be quite
>>> sad if production kernels would lose that optimization.
>> I think the crossjumping is not the tail call optimization,
>> http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.6/gccint/Passes.html
>
> Statement didn't make sense then. The RTL crossjump pass you're referring
> AFAIK does not jump into other functions, it only optimizes jumps
> inside a function (unless you're talking about inlines)
If so, that's a good news for me. Then just drop the disable crossjumping
patch is enough.
>>> Also tail calls in C should always jump directly to another function,
>>> so they shouldn't be particularly complex to manage.
>> Tail call jumps directly into the head of another function,
>> not the middle. Thus it is safe.
>
> cross jumping does neither.
>
>>>> I also decided not to optimize probes when it is in functions which
>>>> will cause exceptions, because the exception in the kernel will jump
>>>> to a fixup code and the fixup code jumps back to the middle of the
>>>> same function body.
>>> Note that not only exceptions do that, there are a few other cases
>>> where jumps in and out of out of line sections happen. You might
>>> need a more general mechanism to detect this.
>> As far as I can see (under arch/x86), Almost all fixup entries are
>> defined with ex_table entries, and others jump to the head of
>> symbols(or functions). The jumps which jump into the middle of
>> some functions are what I need to find, and, as far as I know,
>> those fixup jumps are used with exception tables. Of course,
>> I might miss some fixup codes, in that case, please let me know:-)
>
> One case for example are out of line sections generated by gcc itself
> with the right options.
Hmm, would you know what is the actual name of that section and option?
I think another possible solution is decoding those sections and
black-listing the target functions when making vmlinux or loading
modules.
Thank you,
--
Masami Hiramatsu
Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.
Software Solutions Division
e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-23 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-22 21:22 [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 0/7] kprobes: Kprobes jump optimization support Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-22 21:23 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 1/7] kprobes: use list instead of hlist for insn_pages Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-22 21:23 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 2/7] kprobes: introducing generic insn_slot framework Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-27 20:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-29 21:09 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-22 21:23 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 3/7] Kbuild: disable gcc crossjumping Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-27 20:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-07-17 20:28 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-07-17 21:13 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-07-17 21:15 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-07-17 21:19 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-22 21:23 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 4/7] kprobes: kprobes jump optimization core Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-23 12:58 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2009-06-23 13:11 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-22 21:23 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 5/7] kprobes: x86: cleanup save/restore registers Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-22 21:23 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 6/7] kprobes: x86: support kprobes jump optimization on x86 Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-22 21:23 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 7/7] kprobes: add documents of jump optimization Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-23 11:42 ` [RFC][ PATCH -tip v2 0/7] kprobes: Kprobes jump optimization support Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-23 19:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-23 21:54 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-23 22:08 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-23 12:09 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-23 13:50 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-23 16:34 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-23 17:28 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2009-06-23 20:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-23 20:48 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-06-26 23:20 ` Masami Hiramatsu
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