From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] enable x2APIC without interrupt remapping under KVM
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:27:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A5039BA.7030100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1prcgyo5y.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
On 07/05/2009 03:22 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Gleb Natapov<gleb@redhat.com> writes:
>
>
>>> Therefore I don't see the point of supporting one without the other.
>>>
>> x2apic provide us with other benefits as commit message explains, and
>> doesn't add any problems that we don't have now already.
>>
>
> If this code has a legitimate place on real hardware I am all for it.
>
As I understood it, x2apic without interrupt remapping will work but is
not a validated configuration. Interrupt remapping is only necessary if
you have > 255 hardware threads + ioapics. The features are logically
separate and are only tied together by the vendor's validation practices.
> If this is just a hack to make virtualization faster I don't like the
> extra code paths in the middle core architecture code. That will
> be a support burden for the foreseeable future. More code to
> test etc.
>
There aren't any extra code paths. The patch separates a long function
into two smaller ones that each do one thing, and adds a check for kvm.
Maybe it should be split into two to makes that clear. The first patch
simplifies the code, the second adds a kvm check.
> Quickly skimming the patch it just appears to stir a mess.
> Plus it adds weird paravirtualization checks, ???
>
It adds exactly one "weird paravirtualization check ???", then one
described in the patch description.
> If we are going to have a special code path for virtual hardware
> can we do it right and have something nice to use that makes life
> simpler?
You mean, instead of adding one check in an initialization code path,
create a new irqchip, a way of describing the topology to the guest,
support code in kvm (as host)?
> For what we want to do with ioapics they suck and are
> really not suitable. The only thing that recommends them is that
> they are standard. But you are deviating from the standard so
> what is the point.
>
All of the code continues to work.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-05 5:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-01 13:30 [PATCH v5] enable x2APIC without interrupt remapping under KVM Gleb Natapov
2009-07-01 21:00 ` Suresh Siddha
2009-07-03 8:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-04 9:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-04 9:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-04 14:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-04 15:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-05 0:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-05 5:27 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-07-04 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-05 14:32 ` [PATCH] " Gleb Natapov
2009-07-10 13:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-07-12 12:06 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-18 14:07 ` Ingo Molnar
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