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From: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
To: David Newall <davidn@davidnewall.com>
Cc: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
	Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@free.fr>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Amerigo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: extend pipe() to support NULL argument.
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:02:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A53B7DB.5050105@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A53B202.9080505@davidnewall.com>

David Newall wrote:
> Changli Gao wrote:
>>  mkfifo(name);
>>  open(name, O_RDWR);
>>  unlink(name);
>>
>> Is it a trick?
> 
> This does beg the question, why is it necessary to "extend" pipe() in
> this way?

Well, to me it sounds like the goal of the proposal is for very high 
load, high performance socket servers so efficiency matters.

The above is more than 3 times as expensive as one pipe(). Each syscall 
is thousands of machine cycles in overhead. In addition to that all 
three are VFS operations which as I recall are even more expensive than 
other syscalls.

But perhaps mkfifo(NULL) should be the syscall chosen to extend since 
its parameters are much like open() already, and it seems to work in the 
above sequence to create a one-FD FIFO already.

Or instead of, or in addition to a NULL name argument, its mode argument 
could be used as a flags argument to specify an anonymous fifo creation 
with FD return.
-- 
Zan Lynx
zlynx@acm.org

"Knowledge is Power.  Power Corrupts.  Study Hard.  Be Evil."

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-07 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-02  7:36 PROPOSAL: extend pipe() to support NULL argument Changli Gao
2009-07-02  9:13 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-02  9:18   ` Changli Gao
2009-07-02  9:46     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-02 10:04       ` Changli Gao
2009-07-02 10:21         ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03  0:43           ` Changli Gao
2009-07-03  1:55             ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03  2:10               ` Changli Gao
2009-07-03  3:00                 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03  4:08                   ` Changli Gao
2009-07-03  5:19                     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03  5:42                       ` Changli Gao
2009-07-03  7:15                         ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03  7:40                           ` Changli Gao
2009-07-03  8:16                             ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03  8:27                               ` Changli Gao
2009-07-03  9:42                                 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03  9:59                                   ` Changli Gao
2009-07-03 10:23                                     ` Amerigo Wang
2009-07-03 10:28                                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2009-07-06  1:12                                       ` Changli Gao
2009-07-06  6:15                                         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2009-07-06  6:23                                           ` Changli Gao
2009-07-06  6:30                                             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2009-07-07  4:43                                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-07-07  7:45                                         ` Changli Gao
2009-07-07 20:37                                           ` David Newall
2009-07-07 21:02                                             ` Zan Lynx [this message]
2009-07-08  4:41                                               ` Changli Gao
2009-07-08  4:43                                                 ` David Newall
2009-07-02 10:42     ` Alan Cox
2009-07-03  0:45       ` Changli Gao

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