From: Bill Gatliff <bgat@billgatliff.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
sen wang <wangsen.linux@gmail.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kernel@kolivas.org,
npiggin@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: report a bug about sched_rt
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:35:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A6DAD16.7050809@billgatliff.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090726190343.GB12916@shareable.org>
Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Bill Gatliff wrote:
>
>> Jamie Lokier wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with communicting the desire explicitly to the scheduler.
>>>
>>> In the above example, the exact desire is "give me as much CPU as I
>>> ask for, because my hardware servicing will be adversely but
>>> non-fatally affected if you don't, and the amount of CPU needed to
>>> service the hardware cannot be determined in advance, but prevent me
>>>
>> >from blocking progress in the rest of the system by limiting my
>>
>>> exclusive ownership of the CPU".
>>>
>>> How do you propose to communicate that to the scheduler, if not by
>>> something rather like RT-bandwidth with downgrading to SCHED_OTHER
>>> when a policy limit is exceeded?
>>>
>> This is a great real-world problem. And there's no one-size-fits-all
>> answer, unfortunately.
>>
>> RT-bandwidth will give you the system behavior you are after, but it's a
>> pretty blunt instrument.
>>
>
> I'm under the impression that RT-bandwidth will *not* give the above
> system behaviour, and that is the whole reason for this thread.
>
I think I misspoke. What I meant to say is that RT-bandwidth will
(probably) prevent the hardware handler from eating 100% of the CPU.
But the system will suffer quite a, um, "discontinuity" when the
throttling happens.
>
>> I'd consider putting some throttling in your interrupt handler that
>> prevents it from running more than a certain amount of calculation per
>> interrupt event.
>>
>
> There is no interrupt handler in my specification above...
>
True. But in practice, I think such devices are typically
interrupt-driven at some level.
b.g.
--
Bill Gatliff
bgat@billgatliff.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-27 13:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-24 10:57 report a bug about sched_rt sen wang
2009-07-24 12:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 13:04 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 13:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 13:26 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 13:44 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 14:04 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 14:53 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:07 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 15:43 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-07-25 11:12 ` Raistlin
2009-07-24 14:24 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 14:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 15:02 ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 16:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 23:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-25 5:22 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-25 22:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-26 2:44 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-26 19:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-27 13:35 ` Bill Gatliff [this message]
2009-07-25 12:33 ` Raistlin
2009-07-25 14:58 ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2009-07-25 12:19 ` Raistlin
2009-07-25 22:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-25 23:24 ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2009-07-25 11:10 ` Raistlin
[not found] ` <454c71700907250429i1c77658bt6d65b02f08a29f4a@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-25 23:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 14:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-07-26 3:55 ` sen wang
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