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From: Bill Gatliff <bgat@billgatliff.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	sen wang <wangsen.linux@gmail.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kernel@kolivas.org,
	npiggin@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: report a bug about sched_rt
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:35:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A6DAD16.7050809@billgatliff.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090726190343.GB12916@shareable.org>

Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Bill Gatliff wrote:
>   
>> Jamie Lokier wrote:
>>     
>>> I agree with communicting the desire explicitly to the scheduler.
>>>
>>> In the above example, the exact desire is "give me as much CPU as I
>>> ask for, because my hardware servicing will be adversely but
>>> non-fatally affected if you don't, and the amount of CPU needed to
>>> service the hardware cannot be determined in advance, but prevent me
>>>       
>> >from blocking progress in the rest of the system by limiting my
>>     
>>> exclusive ownership of the CPU".
>>>
>>> How do you propose to communicate that to the scheduler, if not by
>>> something rather like RT-bandwidth with downgrading to SCHED_OTHER
>>> when a policy limit is exceeded?
>>>       
>> This is a great real-world problem.  And there's no one-size-fits-all 
>> answer, unfortunately.
>>
>> RT-bandwidth will give you the system behavior you are after, but it's a 
>> pretty blunt instrument.
>>     
>
> I'm under the impression that RT-bandwidth will *not* give the above
> system behaviour, and that is the whole reason for this thread.
>   

I think I misspoke.  What I meant to say is that RT-bandwidth will 
(probably) prevent the hardware handler from eating 100% of the CPU.  
But the system will suffer quite a, um, "discontinuity" when the 
throttling happens.

>   
>> I'd consider putting some throttling in your interrupt handler that 
>> prevents it from running more than a certain amount of calculation per 
>> interrupt event.
>>     
>
> There is no interrupt handler in my specification above...
>   

True.  But in practice, I think such devices are typically 
interrupt-driven at some level.


b.g.

-- 
Bill Gatliff
bgat@billgatliff.com


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-27 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-24 10:57 report a bug about sched_rt sen wang
2009-07-24 12:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 13:04   ` sen wang
2009-07-24 13:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 13:26       ` sen wang
2009-07-24 13:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 13:44           ` sen wang
2009-07-24 13:54             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 14:04               ` sen wang
2009-07-24 14:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 14:53                   ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:07                   ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:24                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 15:43                       ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:34                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-07-25 11:12                     ` Raistlin
2009-07-24 14:24               ` sen wang
2009-07-24 14:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 15:02                   ` sen wang
2009-07-24 15:40                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 16:01                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-24 23:30                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-25  5:22                         ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-25 22:48                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-26  2:44                             ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-26 19:03                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 10:45                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-07-27 13:35                                 ` Bill Gatliff [this message]
2009-07-25 12:33                         ` Raistlin
2009-07-25 14:58                           ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2009-07-25 12:19                       ` Raistlin
2009-07-25 22:54                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-25 23:24                           ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2009-07-25 11:10         ` Raistlin
     [not found]           ` <454c71700907250429i1c77658bt6d65b02f08a29f4a@mail.gmail.com>
2009-07-25 23:01             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-24 14:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-07-26  3:55   ` sen wang

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