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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>, acme <acme@redhat.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Eduard-Gabriel Munteanu" <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
	roland <roland@redhat.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Masami Hiramatsu" <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	fche <fche@redhat.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: malloc() tracing in perf?
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:19:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A7AA008.80309@cs.helsinki.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A7A9F7F.7080405@cs.helsinki.fi>

Pekka Enberg wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 10:48 +0300, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It's me again :-).
>>>
>>> I have a little user-space application that is pretty memory hungry 
>>> and I want to understand why. I started to google around for a memory 
>>> profiler or a malloc() tracer but didn't seem to find anything really 
>>> useful.
>>>
>>> But then it hit me, why can't I have kmemtrace + perf but for 
>>> user-space? Something like the "Malloc Trace" shown here:
>>>
>>> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/developertools/conceptual/SharkUserGuide/OtherProfilingandTracingTechniques/OtherProfilingandTracingTechniques.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40005233-CH6-SW17 
>>>
>>>
>>> Does this sound like something that could/should be part of "perf"? 
>>> How would all this work anyway? Can we intercept malloc() and free() 
>>> somehow? Where would the data be pushed? Am I just going perf-crazy 
>>> and trying to turn it into a swiss army knife because it's so easy to 
>>> use?-)
> 
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> OK, you just trod into a wasp's nest :-)
>>
>> That sounds like uprobes, the equivalent of kprobes but for userspace.
>>
>> I seem to have heard people are working on such a thing, but I can't
>> seem to find a single LKML post with 'uprobe' in the subject in the past
>> two years or something (except for MTUprobe) -- so I guess its not
>> really going anywhere any fast.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Right. Are dynamic tracepoints what we want for malloc() and free() 
> interception, though? I guess we can just do generic "userspace function 
> called" events and record the passed parameters. Then "perf memreport" 
> can just go find all the malloc() and free() calls and construct a 
> memory profile out of it?
> 
> That said, I'd also be interested in wiring my userspace VM garbage 
> collector to emit similar alloc and free events as well (because perf 
> already has a JIT symbol map) which makes me think we want generic 
> "userspace allocated memory" events.

Argh, I dropped LKML from the CC. Sorry for the duplicate email!

			Pekka

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-06  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4A7A8ADD.4080208@cs.helsinki.fi>
     [not found] ` <1249546610.32113.35.camel@twins>
2009-08-06  8:20   ` malloc() tracing in perf? Pekka Enberg
     [not found]   ` <4A7A9F7F.7080405@cs.helsinki.fi>
2009-08-06  9:19     ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2009-08-06  9:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 11:20   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-08-06 11:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 11:55       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-08-06 12:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-06 13:47           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-08-06 14:17           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-08-06 13:35   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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