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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jeff@garzik.org,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, bzolnier@gmail.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Lazy workqueues
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:55:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8D47B8.6070001@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1250763604-24355-1-git-send-email-jens.axboe@oracle.com>

Hello, Jens.

Jens Axboe wrote:
> After yesterdays rant on having too many kernel threads and checking
> how many I actually have running on this system (531!), I decided to 
> try and do something about it.

Heh... that's a lot.  How many cpus do you have there?  Care to share
the output of "ps -ef"?

> My goal was to retain the workqueue interface instead of coming up with
> a new scheme that required conversion (or converting to slow_work which,
> btw, is an awful name :-). I also wanted to retain the affinity
> guarantees of workqueues as much as possible.
> 
> So this is a first step in that direction, it's probably full of races
> and holes, but should get the idea across. It adds a
> create_lazy_workqueue() helper, similar to the other variants that we
> currently have. A lazy workqueue works like a normal workqueue, except
> that it only (by default) starts a core thread instead of threads for
> all online CPUs. When work is queued on a lazy workqueue for a CPU
> that doesn't have a thread running, it will be placed on the core CPUs
> list and that will then create and move the work to the right target.
> Should task creation fail, the queued work will be executed on the
> core CPU instead. Once a lazy workqueue thread has been idle for a
> certain amount of time, it will again exit.

Yeap, the approach seems simple and nice and resolves the problem of
too many idle workers.

> The patch boots here and I exercised the rpciod workqueue and
> verified that it gets created, runs on the right CPU, and exits a while
> later. So core functionality should be there, even if it has holes.
> 
> With this patchset, I am now down to 280 kernel threads on one of my test
> boxes. Still too many, but it's a start and a net reduction of 251
> threads here, or 47%!

I'm trying to find out whether the perfect concurrency idea I talked
about on the other thread can be implemented in reasonable manner.
Would you mind holding for a few days before investing too much effort
into expanding this one to handle multiple workers?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-20 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20 10:19 [PATCH 0/6] Lazy workqueues Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 10:19 ` [PATCH 1/6] workqueue: replace singlethread/freezable/rt parameters and variables with flags Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 10:20 ` [PATCH 2/6] workqueue: add support for lazy workqueues Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 12:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-20 12:10     ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 10:20 ` [PATCH 3/6] crypto: use " Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 10:20 ` [PATCH 4/6] libata: use lazy workqueues for the pio task Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 12:40   ` Stefan Richter
2009-08-20 12:48     ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 10:20 ` [PATCH 5/6] aio: use lazy workqueues Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 15:09   ` Jeff Moyer
2009-08-21 18:31     ` Zach Brown
2009-08-20 10:20 ` [PATCH 6/6] sunrpc: " Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 12:04 ` [PATCH 0/6] Lazy workqueues Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-20 12:08   ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 12:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-23  2:42       ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-24  7:04         ` git send-email defaults Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-24  8:04         ` [PATCH 0/6] Lazy workqueues Jens Axboe
2009-08-24  9:03           ` Junio C Hamano
2009-08-24  9:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-20 12:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-08-20 12:41   ` Jens Axboe
2009-08-20 13:04     ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-20 12:59   ` Steven Whitehouse
2009-08-20 12:55 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-08-21  6:58   ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-20 10:17 Jens Axboe

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