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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio-blk: set QUEUE_ORDERED_DRAIN by default
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:28:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A952A5D.5040606@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908262136.46570.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

On 08/26/2009 03:06 PM, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:46:08 pm Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>    
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:41:37PM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>      
>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:26:16 am Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>        
>>>> Currently virtio-blk doesn't set any QUEUE_ORDERED_ flag by default, which
>>>> means it does not allow filesystems to use barriers.  But the typical use
>>>> case for virtio-blk is to use a backed that uses synchronous I/O
>>>>          
>>> Really?  Does qemu open with O_SYNC?
>>>
>>> I'm definitely no block expert, but this seems strange...
>>> Rusty.
>>>        
>> Qemu can open it various ways, but the only one that is fully safe
>> is O_SYNC (cache=writethrough).
>>      
> (Rusty goes away and reads the qemu man page).
>
> 	By default, if no explicit caching is specified for a qcow2 disk image,
> 	cache=writeback will be used.
>    

It's now switched to writethrough.  In any case, cache=writeback means 
"lie to the guest, we don't care about integrity".

> Are you claiming qcow2 is unusual?  I can believe snapshot is less common,
> though I use it all the time.
>
> You'd normally have to add a feature for something like this.  I don't
> think this is different.
>    

Why do we need to add a feature for this?

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-26 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20 20:56 [PATCH] virtio-blk: set QUEUE_ORDERED_DRAIN by default Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-21  7:30 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-08-25 14:11 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-25 14:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-08-26 12:06     ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-26 12:28       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-08-27 10:43         ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-27 11:04           ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-28  1:15             ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-28  6:33               ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-27 17:06           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-17 17:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-22  6:27   ` Rusty Russell

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