From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751470AbZH1NiB (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:38:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751071AbZH1NiA (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:38:00 -0400 Received: from g1t0028.austin.hp.com ([15.216.28.35]:19488 "EHLO g1t0028.austin.hp.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751011AbZH1Nh7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4A97DD88.5090504@hp.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:37:12 -0400 From: jim owens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rik van Riel CC: raz ben yehuda , Thomas Gleixner , Chris Friesen , Andrew Morton , mingo@elte.hu, peterz@infradead.org, maximlevitsky@gmail.com, efault@gmx.de, wiseman@macs.biu.ac.il, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFC: THE OFFLINE SCHEDULER References: <1251282598.3514.20.camel@raz> <1251297910.1791.22.camel@maxim-laptop> <1251298443.4791.7.camel@raz> <1251300625.18584.18.camel@twins> <1251302598.18584.31.camel@twins> <20090826180407.GA13632@elte.hu> <20090826193252.GA14721@elte.hu> <20090826135041.e6169d18.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <4A95A5EE.90400@nortel.com> <1251322663.3882.48.camel@raz> <4A96B997.1070001@nortel.com> <1251408785.3700.22.camel@raz> <1251448697.3872.15.camel@raz> <4A97DAE7.40603@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4A97DAE7.40603@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rik van Riel wrote: > raz ben yehuda wrote: > >> yes. latency is a crucial property. > > In the case of network packets, wouldn't you get a lower > latency by transmitting the packet from the CPU that > knows the packet should be transmitted, instead of sending > an IPI to another CPU and waiting for that CPU to do the > work? > > Inter-CPU communication has always been the bottleneck > when it comes to SMP performance. Why does adding more > inter-CPU communication make your system faster, instead > of slower like one would expect? > Maybe just me being paranoid, but from the beginning this "use for dedicated IO processor" has scared the crap out of me. Reminds me of Winmodem... sell cheap hardware by stealing your CPU! The HPC FIFO user application on the other hand is a reasonable if somewhat edge-case specialized user batch job. jim