From: jim owens <jowens@hp.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
raz ben yehuda <raziebe@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
mingo@elte.hu, peterz@infradead.org, maximlevitsky@gmail.com,
efault@gmx.de, wiseman@macs.biu.ac.il,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: THE OFFLINE SCHEDULER
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:03:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A995F53.50509@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0908281619520.15573@gentwo.org>
Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> What slab queue stuff is running on timers and cannot be switched off
>> in such a context?
>
> slab does run a timer every 2 second to age queues. If there was activity
> then there can be a relatively long time in which we periodically throw
> out portions of the cached data.
OK, you have me fully confused now.
From other HPC people, I know the "no noise in my math application"
requirement. But that means the user code that is running on the
CPU must not do anything that wakes the kernel. Not even page faults,
so they pin the memory at job start.
Anything the user code does that needs kernel statistics or
kernel action is "I must fix my user code", or "I accept that
the noise is necessary".
So we don't need to offload stats to other CPUs, stats are not needed.
>> Device specific stuff should not happen on such a CPU when there is no
>> device handled on it.
>
> The device may periodically check for conditions that require action.
Again, what is this device and why is it controlled directly by
user-space code. Devices should be controlled even in an HPC
environment by the kernel. AFAIK HPC wants the kernel to be the
bootstrap and data transfer manager running on a small subset of
the total CPUs, with the dedicated CPUs running math jobs.
jim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-29 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-22 23:27 RFC: THE OFFLINE SCHEDULER raz ben yehuda
2009-08-23 5:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-08-23 9:09 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-23 7:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-08-23 11:05 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-23 9:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-08-25 15:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-25 17:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-08-25 18:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-25 18:12 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <5d96567b0908251522m3fd4ab98n76a52a34a11e874c@mail.gmail.com>
2009-08-25 22:32 ` Fwd: " Raz
2009-08-25 19:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-25 19:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-25 19:22 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-25 20:35 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-08-26 5:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-26 10:29 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-26 8:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-08-26 8:16 ` Raz
2009-08-26 13:47 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-26 14:45 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-08-26 14:54 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-26 15:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26 15:11 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-26 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-26 15:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-26 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-26 16:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-26 16:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-26 18:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-26 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-26 19:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-26 20:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-26 20:50 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-26 21:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-26 21:15 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-26 21:37 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-27 16:51 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-27 17:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-27 21:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-27 22:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-28 2:15 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 3:33 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-28 4:27 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-28 10:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-28 18:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-28 19:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-28 19:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-28 20:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-28 20:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-28 20:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-31 19:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-31 17:44 ` Roland Dreier
2009-09-01 18:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-09-01 16:15 ` Roland Dreier
2009-08-29 17:03 ` jim owens [this message]
2009-08-31 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-31 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-09-01 18:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-28 6:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-08-27 23:51 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-28 0:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-28 21:20 ` Chris Friesen
2009-08-28 18:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-27 21:33 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-27 22:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-28 8:38 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-28 10:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-08-28 13:25 ` Rik van Riel
2009-08-28 13:37 ` jim owens
2009-08-28 15:22 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-26 21:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-27 2:55 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-08-26 21:34 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-26 21:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-08-26 21:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-08-26 21:32 ` raz ben yehuda
2009-08-27 7:15 ` Mike Galbraith
2009-08-26 15:37 ` Chetan.Loke
2009-08-26 15:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-08-25 21:09 ` Éric Piel
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