From: Amerigo Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: michael@ellerman.id.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tony.luck@intel.com, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
Neil Horman <nhorman@redhat.com>,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"M. Mohan Kumar" <mohan@in.ibm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, bernhard.walle@gmx.de,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Anton Vorontsov <avorontsov@ru.mvista.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch 0/8] V5 Implement crashkernel=auto
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:25:08 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A9B4294.6080902@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ws4kznvf.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au> writes:
>
>
>> On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 23:15 -0400, Amerigo Wang wrote:
>>
>>> V4 -> V5:
>>> - Rename the global functions, as suggested by Andrew.
>>> - Save some macros, as suggested by Andrew.
>>> - Change the high threshold, from 32G to 4G.
>>> - Change the low threshold on ppc, suggested by ppc developers.
>>> - Make the mm part as a seperate function, suggest by Eric.
>>> - Make the IA64 code more readable.
>>> - Reorder the patchset again, since review from mm people is done.
>>>
>>> V3 -> V4:
>>> - Reorder the patches.
>>> - Really free the reserved memory, instead of remapping it.
>>> (Thanks to KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki!)
>>> - Release the reserved memory resource when the size is 0.
>>> - Use strict_strtoul() instead of simple_strtoul().
>>>
>>> V2 -> V3:
>>> - Use more clever way to calculate reserved memory size, especially for IA64.
>>> - Add that patch that implements shrinking reserved memory
>>>
>>> V1 -> V2:
>>> - Use include/asm-generic/kexec.h, suggested by Neil.
>>> - Rename a local variable, suggested by Fenghua.
>>> - Fix some style problems found by checkpatch.pl.
>>> - Unify the Kconfig docs.
>>>
>>> This series of patch implements automatically reserved memory for crashkernel,
>>> by introducing a new boot option "crashkernel=auto". This idea is from Neil.
>>>
>>> In case of breaking user-space applications, it modifies this boot option after
>>> it decides how much memory should be reserved.
>>>
>>> On different arch, the threshold and reserved memory size is different. Please
>>> refer patch 7/8 which contains an update for the documentation.
>>>
>>> Patch 8/8 implements shrinking reserved memory at run-time, which is useful
>>> when more than enough memory is reserved automatically.
>>>
>>> This patchset _is_ already tested on x86_64, IA64 and ppc64.
>>>
>> I don't want to sound like a micro-kernel zealot, I'm not, but I'm still
>> unconvinced as to why the auto logic needs to go in the kernel. What is
>> the compelling reason that the kernel needs to do this calculation vs
>> some userspace tool? We already have the syntax that allows defining a
>> different crash size depending on the size of RAM.
>>
>> The shrinking of reserved memory is cool.
>>
>
> Michael I am in agreement with you.
> The shrinking is good.
>
> If we can come up with some simple and generic logic that we can use
> to reserve memory then I am in favor. However all this patchset is
> doing is moving user space specific arbitrary hacks into the kernel we
> do that perfectly well on the command line. Having the amount to
> reserve be arch specific is complete non-sense and a major maintenance
> pain.
>
Ok, since you guys think we should not do sth in kernel space if we can
do it in user space, why not removing the extended crash kernel syntax??
E.g.
crashkernel=512M-2G:64M,2G-:128M
I am *quite* sure this can be done in user space too. In theory, only
you need is just:
crashkernel=X@Y
all the rest things can be done in user space. Enjoy!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-31 3:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-27 3:15 [Patch 0/8] V5 Implement crashkernel=auto Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 3:15 ` [Patch 1/8] x86: add CONFIG_KEXEC_AUTO_RESERVE Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 3:15 ` [Patch 2/8] x86: implement crashkernel=auto Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 3:16 ` [Patch 3/8] ia64: add CONFIG_KEXEC_AUTO_RESERVE Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 3:16 ` [Patch 4/8] ia64: implement crashkernel=auto Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 4:19 ` Yu, Fenghua
2009-08-27 10:26 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 18:13 ` Yu, Fenghua
2009-08-28 10:04 ` Amerigo Wang
2009-08-28 20:08 ` Yu, Fenghua
2009-08-27 3:16 ` [Patch 5/8] powerpc: add CONFIG_KEXEC_AUTO_RESERVE Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 3:16 ` [Patch 6/8] powerpc: implement crashkernel=auto Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 18:22 ` Yu, Fenghua
2009-08-27 3:16 ` [Patch 7/8] doc: update the kdump document Amerigo Wang
2009-08-27 3:17 ` [Patch 8/8] kexec: allow to shrink reserved memory Amerigo Wang
2009-08-31 0:54 ` [Patch 0/8] V5 Implement crashkernel=auto Michael Ellerman
2009-08-31 3:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-31 3:25 ` Amerigo Wang [this message]
2009-08-31 3:27 ` Amerigo Wang
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