From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
rusty@rustcorp.com.au, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio_console: Add support for multiple ports for generic guest and host communication
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:37:39 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AAF98A3.7080404@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090915130357.GC5247@amit-x200.redhat.com>
Amit Shah wrote:
> On (Tue) Sep 15 2009 [07:57:10], Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> Amit Shah wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Greg,
>>>
>>> Can you tell me how this could work out -- each console port could have
>>> a "role" string associated with it (obtainable from the invoking qemu
>>> process in case of qemu/kvm). Something that I have in mind currently
>>> is:
>>>
>>> $ qemu-kvm ... -virtioconsole role=org/qemu/clipboard
>>>
>>> and then the guest kernel sees the string, and puts the
>>> "org/qemu/clipboard" in some file in sysfs. Guest userspace should then
>>> be able to open and read/write to
>>>
>>> /dev/virtio_console/org/qemu/clipboard
>>>
>>>
>> That's probably not what we want. I imagine what we want is:
>>
>> /dev/ttyV0
>> /dev/ttyV1
>> /dev/ttyVN
>>
>> And then we want:
>>
>> /sys/class/virtio-console/ttyV0/name -> "org.qemu.clipboard"
>>
>> Userspace can detect when new virtio-consoles appear via udev events.
>> When it sees a new ttyVN, it can then look in sysfs to discover it's
>> name.
>>
>
> OK; but that's kind of roundabout isn't it? An application, instead of
> watching for the console port it's interested in, has to instead monitor
> all the ports.
>
If you wanted to use /dev/virtio/org/qemu/clipboard you still have the
same problem. You have to use udev or inotify to listen for a new file
in a directory.
The /dev/ path may look nicer from a high level, but the code ends up
being roughly the same for either approach. What I propose has the
advantage of looking like existing subsystems. It also avoids encoding
device information in the device name.
> So in effect there has to be one app monitoring for new ports and then
> that app exec'ing the corresponding app meant for that port.
>
I think if you think through both models, they end up looking the same.
Regards,
Anthony Liguroi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-15 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-11 14:13 Multiple ports support for virtio_console; major number for dev Amit Shah
2009-09-11 14:13 ` [PATCH] virtio_console: Add support for multiple ports for generic guest and host communication Amit Shah
2009-09-11 16:00 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-11 16:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-11 17:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-11 17:33 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-11 17:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-16 10:23 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-16 22:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-17 13:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-09-17 13:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 13:41 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-17 15:57 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 16:46 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-18 16:00 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18 17:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-18 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-18 18:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-19 7:04 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-18 20:11 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-19 7:01 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-21 10:06 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-15 12:37 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-15 12:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-15 13:03 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-15 13:37 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-09-15 14:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-15 14:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-22 2:44 ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-22 15:45 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 9:24 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 10:09 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 10:33 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 11:02 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 11:40 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 12:03 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 12:20 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:56 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 13:09 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 13:31 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-30 17:13 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 8:17 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 8:47 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 8:55 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 9:00 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 10:04 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 10:28 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 10:42 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 11:58 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 12:04 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 13:50 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-05 14:05 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-06 6:49 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-06 6:55 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 13:11 ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-29 13:24 ` Amit Shah
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