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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: jeff@garzik.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, arjan@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] scheduler: implement workqueue scheduler class
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:23:09 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC5F0AD.2080904@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910010953010.6996@localhost.localdomain>

Hello, Linus.

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Implement workqueue scheduler class.  Workqueue sched_class inherits
>> fair sched_class and behaves exactly the same as sched_class except
>> that it has two callback functions which get called when a task is put
>> to sleep and wakes up and doesn't allow switching to different
>> scheduler class.
> 
> So this looks odd to me.
> 
> I agree completely with the callback functions, but what I don't agree 
> with is that this is somehow workqueue-related. I bet that others could 
> use this, and in fact, I suspect that it should not be tied to the 
> scheduler class at all, but to the _thread_.
> 
> Just as an example, I could imagine that we would do lock_kernel() 
> releasing the kernel lock on scheduling (and re-taking it on wakeup) as a 
> callback. Or async IO handling - both done independently of any 
> "workqueue" logic.
> 
> So tying this to the scheduler class seems a bit odd. But maybe I'm 
> missing something?

The only reason why the callbacks are implemented by inheriting
sched_class is because I thought it was a pretty special case, so
slightly lax on the hackish side while staying spartan on adding
hotpath overhead.  If this type of notification mechanism is something
which can be used more widely, it would definitely be better to have
proper per-task callback mechanism instead.  Probably per-task chain
of notifier ops so that only tasks which would be interested in such
events can opt in.

Avi, such per-task notification ops should be useable for kvm too,
right?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-02 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-01  8:08 [RFC PATCHSET] workqueue: implement concurrency managed workqueue Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 01/19] freezer: don't get over-anxious while waiting Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 18:36   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-01 21:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-02 10:56       ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-02 19:47       ` Oren Laadan
2009-10-02 21:04         ` Matt Helsley
2009-10-02 21:21           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-03  0:43             ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-03 19:36               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 02/19] scheduler: implement sched_class_equal() Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 03/19] scheduler: implement workqueue scheduler class Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 16:57   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-01 18:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-01 19:00       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 19:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-01 19:23           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-01 20:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-01 19:15         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-01 19:06       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-02 12:23     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 04/19] scheduler: implement force_cpus_allowed_ptr() Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 05/19] kthread: implement kthread_data() Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 06/19] acpi: use queue_work_on() instead of binding workqueue worker to cpu0 Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 12:57   ` David Howells
2009-10-01 17:07     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 07/19] stop_machine: reimplement without using workqueue Tejun Heo
2009-10-06  9:36   ` Rusty Russell
2009-10-06 23:42     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 08/19] workqueue: misc/cosmetic updates Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 09/19] workqueue: merge feature parametesr into flags Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 10/19] workqueue: update cwq alignement and make one more flag bit available Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 13:05   ` David Howells
2009-10-01 16:15     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-10-01 16:20       ` David Howells
2009-10-01 16:30         ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 16:39     ` Alan Cox
2009-10-01 18:45     ` Ben Pfaff
2009-10-02 11:56       ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 11/19] workqueue: define both bit position and mask for work flags Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 12/19] workqueue: separate out process_one_work() Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 13/19] workqueue: temporarily disable workqueue tracing Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 14/19] workqueue: (TEMPORARY) kill singlethread variant Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 15/19] workqueue: reimplement workqueue flushing using color coded works Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 17:03   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-01 17:11     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 17:16       ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 16/19] workqueue: introduce worker Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 17/19] workqueue: reimplement work flushing using linked works Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 18/19] workqueue: reimplement workqueue freeze using cwq->frozen_works queue Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:09 ` [PATCH 19/19] workqueue: implement concurrency managed workqueue Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 13:15   ` David Howells
2009-10-02 12:03     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 14:49   ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-01 15:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-01 16:34     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-04  8:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-01 17:12   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-01 17:22     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 17:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-02  0:42   ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-02 12:09     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-03  2:59       ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-02 14:28   ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-10-01  8:24 ` [RFC PATCHSET] " Jens Axboe
2009-10-01 16:36   ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:24 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-01 16:25   ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01  8:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-01  8:47   ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-01  9:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-01  9:05       ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-01  9:11   ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01  9:22     ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 16:55     ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 17:06       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 16:43   ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-01 12:53 ` David Howells
2009-10-02 11:44   ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-02 12:45     ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-02 15:38     ` David Howells
2009-10-03  5:07       ` Tejun Heo
2009-10-04  8:41 ` Peter Zijlstra

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