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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	systemtap <systemtap@sources.redhat.com>,
	DLE <dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 1/5] tracing/kprobes: Rename special variables syntax
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:59:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ACA25D5.10703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC830F0.2010003@redhat.com>

Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 05:48:42PM -0400, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>>>    FETCHARGS	: Arguments. Each probe can have up to 128 args.
>>>     %REG	: Fetch register REG
>>> -  sN	: Fetch Nth entry of stack (N>= 0)
>>> -  sa	: Fetch stack address.
>>>     @ADDR	: Fetch memory at ADDR (ADDR should be in kernel)
>>>     @SYM[+|-offs]	: Fetch memory at SYM +|- offs (SYM should be a data symbol)
>>> -  aN	: Fetch function argument. (N>= 0)(*)
>>> -  rv	: Fetch return value.(**)
>>> -  ra	: Fetch return address.(**)
>>> +  $sN	: Fetch Nth entry of stack (N>= 0)
>>> +  $sa	: Fetch stack address.
>>> +  $aN	: Fetch function argument. (N>= 0)(*)
>>> +  $rv	: Fetch return value.(**)
>>> +  $ra	: Fetch return address.(**)
>>
>>
>>
>> I feel uncomfortable with that, because of bash scripts that
>> may use it and always need to escape it with antislashes or
>> use single quotes for it to not be replaced by a random variable
>> value. If one uses double quotes without antislashes to protect
>> the command line, the result is unpredictable, depending of
>> the current set of variables...
>>
>> May be we can use # instead of $ ? That's a kind of pity because
>> $ suggested a variable whereas # suggests a constant, we are then
>> losing this self-explainable characteristic for kprobes
>> "specific variable fetchs". But that will work without ambiguity.
>
> Hmm, # is widely used for comment, including some kernel pseudo
> file interfaces, kprobe_events too. Comments are useful if a
> probe list is restored from a file.
>
> For accessing local variables, kprobe-tracer needs to support *at least*
> below variables:
> - Registers
> - Stack address (if a register points stack address, this isn't needed)
>
> Below special vars are complementary aliases.
> - Function arguments
> - Return value
> - Return address
>
> and I'd like perf-probe to have a transparent syntax with kprobe-tracer.
>
> This means, if we can remove special vars except registers, or rename it
> non-conflictable name with registers, we just need to separate name spaces
> of
> - Regsiters
> - Local variables
>
> Here, local variables will support fields of data structs, and it will
> use '->' expression. Since'>' means redirection in bash, local variables
> need to be *escaped* in this case. Thus, I think we can use '$' prefix
> for it. (I'm OK, because this is similar syntax to systemtap:-).
>
> So, if you don't like %regs, $svars and locals, we can use regs and $locals :-)

As far as I can see in arch/*/include/asm/ptrace.h, all registers start with
alphabets :-). So, I'd like to suggest renaming sp-vars to '_sp-vars'.

Then, we will have;
- $local-vars
- @global-symbol
- regs
- _sp-vars
- +|-Offs(ARG)

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu

Software Engineer
Hitachi Computer Products (America), Inc.
Software Solutions Division

e-mail: mhiramat@redhat.com


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-05 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-02 21:48 [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 0/5] tracing/kprobes, perf: perf probe support take 2 Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-02 21:48 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 1/5] tracing/kprobes: Rename special variables syntax Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-03  1:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-04  5:21     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-05 16:59       ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2009-10-05 19:26         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 21:05           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-05 21:11             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-06  0:12           ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-06 14:23             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-06 22:47               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-07  1:13                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-07 16:28                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-07  0:15               ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-07  2:57                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-06 22:42             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 19:18       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 19:38         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 20:18         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-05 20:58           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 21:11             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-05 21:21               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 21:34                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-05 21:55                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 22:09                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 22:38                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-05 22:42                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-02 21:48 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 2/5] tracing/kprobes: Avoid field name confliction Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-06  0:16   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-06  1:07     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-02 21:48 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 3/5] tracing/kprobes: Rename fixed field name Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-02 21:49 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 4/5] perf: Add perf probe subcommand for kprobe-event setup helper Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-06  0:29   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-06  0:57     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-06  1:20       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-10-06  1:43       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-10-06  9:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-07  3:22         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-02 21:49 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 5/5] perf: kprobe command supports without libdwarf Masami Hiramatsu
2009-10-03  1:25 ` [PATCH tracing/kprobes v2 0/5] tracing/kprobes, perf: perf probe support take 2 Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-05 14:54 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-10-05 15:10   ` Masami Hiramatsu

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